Did Trump tromp on Biden at the debate?

[Daniela1982]

President Joe Biden lost the first presidential debate in less than 14 minutes. That isn’t to say that former President Donald Trump didn’t excel — he did — but no one-liner hit the incumbent harder than the incumbent hit himself.

By minute 18, Biden had even flubbed the abortion question: mumbling, muttering, changing the subject to illegal immigration, and then tossing the ball back to Trump to hit it out of the park.

Even when given a second chance, and doing a little better, Biden failed to wound an opponent willing to call the Democratic Party out on its own abortion policies. “He's willing to rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month,” Trump challenged, “and kill the baby. ... We think the Democrats are the radicals. Not the Republicans.

Trump was his old self, confident and agile without bullying. By the time the border really was the topic, he landed his first authentic laugh-out-loud line in response to a rambling and incoherent Biden: “I really don’t know what he said at the end of this.”

By contrast, the current president looked lost for the first 20 minutes especially. His eyes were closed. He mumbled. He lost his place, having a “Rick Perry moment" every single answer of the first half hour, traditionally the most important part of the debate, before Americans begin to tune out.

Biden caught himself by about the end of that first crucial half-hour. His eyes began to blink to life; he seemed to gain better control of his facial expressions.

It’s important to remember that the debate took place entirely on Biden’s terms, including the stipulation that the hosts control the microphones and that there’s no studio audience for the first time since Richard Nixon debated John F. Kennedy in 1960

Biden needed this win. Nearly every single poll is going the wrong way for him, and he bombed it.

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https://youtu.be/IOwRbtm15rU?si=ClcKQXVLWptMBimW

[blueonblack22]

The people saying that “Biden won” are just cracking me up. He looked absolutely horrible in that debate. Senile, decrepit, lost, confused at times, etc. A blind man could see he lost he hands down got destroyed in that debate.

You know you can still be “pro Biden” (which must be getting harder and harder nowadays) and still just admit he looked like complete sh*t in that debate again Trump.

But I get it. TDS is a very serious condition. Never I mean ever, never ever admit Trump won anything, did anything right, looked good doing something, etc. Make sure to ignore reality and facts at all costs if it’s about something Trump won or did right.

[Massageman]

Trump just let jo commit his own suicide. And as you pointed out, this was all done on liberal-controlled turf via a forcibly-controlled liberal media outlet.

[D_Bone_Steak]

I think it's ridiculous for any Biden supporter to act like they're surprised at how bad Biden is from this debate.

I did a simple google search of the guy back in 2020 and already knew he is a piece of shit and won't do anything good for us. I did my timeline research from before he was Obama's VP, and I already knew about his Ukraine/Russian ties (wake up, that's why we're pumping money over there), and I've been watching this shit show since he stole the election.

No, Biden supporters, you knew how bad he was. You just hate Trump. That's it... and you have to struggle to come up with reasons about why you hate him so much. That's some bitch shit for reals. It's like people that hate me... can't come up with a real reason, just some emotional fee fee's bullshit and I can beat you up with one arm... ya pussy. Bottom line, you voted for him and now you want to act surprised? ... I mean think about it... are you fucking serious?

I don't even want to hear these kunt mouthed pussies try to speak because they spit when they talk and their mouth is full of cum. The females get a pass because they've proven they're bad at picking men in their own life, but you Biden supporting dudes... you dudes make me fucking sick. You joined the team that pushes women first, but not before the trans women. You dudes are a whole new kind of gay that doesn't even deserve the dignity of being called a ffaaggggoott.

The only Biden supporters that make any sense to me, hate America and see a vote for him as the quickest way to destroy America. They have my respect and understanding even though I don't like them. But you other Biden supporters acting surprised right now... I want to break a broom stick off in your ass and break it off so you can't pull it out... and then cut your hair off. I seriously just hate you. We're in this mess because of people like you (not you asker, the Biden bro ffaaggggss). Trans already you pink pussy bitch made faggatron transformers... chop your dick off!

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ne4_KodUlvU

[D_Bone_Steak]

Here is a video of what I want to do with Biden supporters.
https://youtu.be/PelrLRnRL30?si=6O1_fi1oSyjc9xo6

[MisterWack]

Yes, although it wasn’t hard to do since here are the factors that labeled a Trump ‘victory’.

- Biden’s cold & failure to get on the right track until 30 minutes + with slip ups still happening

-Trump’s dodging of each question and using the questions by moderators as a ‘suggestion’ to just say / do whatever he wanted that sounded true on paper however had a bunch of inconsistencies (which I will write in a reply underneath this analysis)

-Biden’s inability to really showcase his legislative agenda due to the cold he had

[MisterWack]

Inconsistencies , I would like to remind everyone that one of the many powers that a President has is MOVING TROOPS without Congress’ permission however can’t declare war without Congress’ permission. In the debate, Trump admitted that he controlled the National Guard to control a peaceful protest on the streets so, he could do a photo-op holding a Bible upside down. “It’s a Bible”(when asked by press if it was his). So to lie that Nancy Pelosi had some sort of ‘Girl Power’ stronger than the POTUS is a bold faced lie. In addition, Trump during the debate ADMITTED he knew that chaos would attack the Capitol yet still provided the buses to his supporters to get to the Ellipse, still told his people to go to the Capitol, and still Tweeted “Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!”
AND THIS, “These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!“

This is definitely not a good look.

[exitseven]

All he did was lie about everything he lied about many things that have been debunked several times already. . He cannot even lie with some degree of competency. When he was talking about how he had 40% fewer illegal aliens than Presiden Trump did I expected not only to see his pants catch fire but I expected his whole body to spontaneously combust.

[goaded]

"Biden: "I've changed (the law) in the way that now you're in a situation where there are 40% fewer people coming across the border illegally."

Mostly True. The Department of Homeland Security announced that illegal immigration encounters dropped by 40%, to fewer than 2,400 each day, in the weeks after Biden announced a policy largely barring asylum access for people entering the U. S. at the southern border. The policy was announced June 4."

"Trump: Biden "allowed millions of people to come in here from prisons, jails and mental institutions."

Pants on Fire! Immigration officials arrested about 103,700 noncitizens with criminal convictions (whether in the U. S. or abroad) from fiscal years 2021 to 2024, federal data shows. That accounts for people stopped at and between ports of entry."
www.politifact.com/.../#Immigration

[exitseven]

@goaded the key word is encounters. The Border Patrol is so busy processing illegal aliens and sending them all over the country there are thousands just walking in unchallenged. EVERY SINGLE DAY.
Crime in Venezuela has dropped 72% because they are sending all their criminals to the US. Other countries are doing this as well. Nobody is actually counting how many because Biden does not want anyone to know. There are many suburban towns that have had hundreds of illegals occupying local hotels. The cops have to be sent there several times day and there have been multiple armed robberies and B&Es in the area since they have showed up.
The democrats always hide behind a wall of chaos and incompetence so that the truth never comes out.

[goaded]

Maybe they could have used the "Just over $20 billion for border provisions, including expansions to existing policies and new policies. That includes $650 million for the border wall, approximately $4 billion to hire new asylum officers and additional funds to provide counsel for unaccompanied children."

The bipartisan bill would have meant "1,500 more security agents and officers, 100 more immigration judges to help tackle the backload of too many cases, 4,300 more asylum officers, and new policies so they can resolve cases in six months instead of six years now."

You know, the bill Trump had nixed.

[exitseven]

@goaded it allowed for 4000 illegals a day to come into the country. If that number is exceeded an unlimited number can come in through ports of entry. No money for the wall and additional Border Patrol would not be used to turn them back and deport them but to process them and replace them into the country. That was a shitty deal and Trump was correct in getting it squashed. I would have wanted to see the wall be completed and 4000 illegals a day get deported.

[goaded]

No, it didn't, and it would have provided $20 billion to help secure the border, even including some wall, and to eject people whose claims weren't valid faster.

www.politifact.com/.../

[sawno]

I'm actually going to say no on this. Trump did above average, he did pretty well for his doing. But did he tromp on Biden? I'd actually say no. Biden was an absolute mess and a disaster but he'd have been that disaster regardless of what trump did. I don't think this is Trump's doing, this was Biden's doing.

[Anonymous]

trump nailed it. his confidence and intelligence was far greater than biden. i don't care how much someone hates trump, there's no way biden is even fit to continue. seriously. biden could barely answer questions. mumbling half the time. he doesn't even know where he is.

[RetroReviews]

Even some Democrats said Biden was a train wreck in a disaster the writing is on the wall. He is old and feeble and decrepit that's just physically mentally his brain is like tapioca pudding. It just amazes me that a person can be in that kind of condition and still say yep he's going to be our guy vote for him ok? ... um that's a big NO!

[PatKirby]

Yes. Specifically, Biden tromped on himself first. Trump just followed the famous words of Napoleon, "never interrupt your adversary when he is making a mistake."

In the words of Jay Surdukowski, attorney & Democratic New Hampshire activist who co-chaired former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley’s 2016 presidential campaign in the state - "Biden is toast."

Trump will be our next president.

[JohnK123]

Sure but who started the Afghanistan withdrawal? Who called Putin a smart and good guy? You can be pro trump on the economic side but that just makes you an economic republican. Not saying Biden is perfect but if you are wanting stability and not more wars (by leaving nato yes) because we will still have alliances, and Congress will be more divided among republicans

[Pterodon]

I’m voting for Trump

[strateguy632]

smart and good... putin had not yet invaded ukraine then! demcrats are very so pathetic.

[JohnK123]

@strateguy632 Putin invaded in 2014 that’s what annexing is called :) and invaded other nations around that time and even before 2014 so yes Trump was president from 2016 to 2020 right? Yep.

[TonyV]

Haven't watched the train wreck yet but the what I've seen on reaction channels it's not so much Trump tromped, biden just dropped the damn ball

[Curmudgeon]

THIS. Trump really should have prepared more and done more homework, but Biden absolutely crashed and burned, reduced to repeating the same long debunked Bogus smears, and sputtering them at that.

[NYCQuestions1976]

"We finally beat Medicare." - Joe Biden

Somebody tell the gender-fluid body-positive lady they're on in 5.

[goaded]

At least Biden answered the questions he was asked. Trump, asked about global warming: "immigration!". Trump lied about practically everything. Shame on CNN for not fact checking.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

and shame on this site for not fact checking the horseshit you just said

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant 50 lies Trump told. meidasnews.com/.../a-complete-list-of-all-of-trumps-debate-lies

[sawno]

Biden also lied an absolute ton, but the debate setup was against Trump. Notice how Biden ALWAYS gets time to respond and then gets asked a new question. With Trump he almost never gets time to respond and always gets asked a new question. So he responds to Biden first in half the questions time and then usually comes back to the actual question.

[goaded]

@sawno "an absolute ton"? 9 false *or misleading* statements. All 50 of Trump's were straight up lies.

An example of two Biden "lies": Biden misstated the Medicare price caps on insulin as $15 rather than $35 and $200 for overall drug expenses rather than $2000. The important thing is that there are new price caps on both, which was a major win.

Compare with Trump's "they will take the life of the child in the eighth month, the ninth month, and even after birth." Which is utterly false and monstrous.

[goaded]

CNN both-siderised the hell out of this.

"He said Trump wants to get rid of Social Security, Trump doesn't"? Wanna bet?

"He said Trump told Americans to inject some bleach during the covid crisis" - "didn't frame it as advice".

"The border patrol endorsed him" - "No they endorsed the bill he supported, not him" (although, "in fairness, the president did appear to clarify that one").

The final three (of four) minutes are the Trump lies.

edition.cnn.com/.../fact-check-cnn-presidential-debate-trump-biden-dale-digvid

[sawno]

For the fun of it you should watch something like crowders reaction to the debate to watch it from a different bias, they were going off pretty frequently with debunks. The kids in cages thing for example was the Obama administration which he was a VP off.

[goaded]

@sawno Why would I listen to Crowder?

"That’s misleading. Experts say there were some separations under previous administrations, but no blanket policy to prosecute parents and, therefore, separate them from their children.

“Bush and Obama did not have policies that resulted in the mass separation of parents and children like we’re seeing under the current administration,” Sarah Pierce, a policy analyst with the Migration Policy Institute, told us."
www.factcheck.org/.../

Children are still not reunited with their parents because Trump's administration didn't bother to keep records. Again, monstrous, and exactly the same as mixing up $15 and $35.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@sawno we are wasting time here. he's not even American, he's from Germany. and I always said, his life must suck ass if he has enough time to follow the politics of other countries other than his

[sawno]

@Filthy_Immigrant I am also from Europe so you also target me with that remark haha.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@sawno not at all, I guess global elites have done a good job a rubbing our politics in other people's faces

I'll admit my wrong but oh well thanks for at least not being gullible like this guy is.

[sawno]

@Filthy_Immigrant We are all in the same boat, and in some things we are more extreme than you, in some cases your more extreme than us (I don't recall the extreme fast food prices here for example although dominos here charges $15 for a small pizza the other pizza shops don't).

[Daniela1982]

Wee @goaded. No matter how you look at it, Trump is not responsible for letting possible terrorists, cartels, gangs, sex traffickers, rapist, criminals from other country's prisons, military single Chinese and Venezuela, and all sorts of criminals in, not spending untold $billions on Ukraine while SS and homeless, and infrastructure and country security get Nada. That is on Biden's watch. Or are you going to blame Trump when some terrorism in the US happens? Trump is by no means perfect, but all these problems are not his fault.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@daniela1982 dont be surprise if he does blames all of that on Trump. this guy literally has a huge leftist butt plug up his ass.

till then yeah he's gonna find an excuse to blame it on Trump, link up fake news articles and called you "brainwashed" like all the other leftist and Biden supporting rejects like to do whenever their views get challenged

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant Unlike you, I don't attack the messenger. You can't dispute the facts, so you point out I'm not American.

@daniela1982 Look up the Inflation Reduction Act (a massive investment in infrastructure), and the bipartisan border control bill that, yes, Trump had scuppered. “A Border Deal now would be another Gift to the Radical Left Democrats,” Trump said in a statement on Thursday. “They need it politically.”

www.washingtonpost.com/.../

[sawno]

The point with the cages is that Biden blamed Trump for that stuff, while it was his administration introducing them. www.latimes.com/.../presidential-immigration-debate-fact-check-and-who-built-the-cages

I don't say it went properly under Trump, but you can't blame Trump for something you introduced.
And the reason to listen to someone like Crowder is because you get all the debunks on the other side of the spectrum in realtime. Thats easier than me regurgitating them all. If you are genuinely interested in it his stream did it one of the most active.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded I dont know what planet you're from but articles based on the horseshit opinions manifested by journalists and news networks is not FACTS and messenger who thinks he knows more than anybody and worst of all cannot MIND HIS/HER OWN BUSINESS deserves to be attacked and ridiculed



@daniela1982 you see? its almost like I predicted the future

[goaded]

@sawno Well, that article plainly states that the cages were not built for children the government separated from their parents, and that the difference between the Obama and Trump administrations is that Obama's only occasionally separated families, when the law required it because the parents were accused of felonies. Trump ensured that all people entering the country illegally were charged with a felony, so all families were split up. Quite a difference, don't you think?

Add to that poor record keeping that meant that hundreds of children couldn't be reunited with their parents.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded you're also getting attacked because not only are you not American and dont know what the fuck we Americans have had to endure under Biden for the past 4 years but you seem to also support the assholes as well.

seriously dude I'm pretty sure you wouldn't take it politely either if me or any other American would tell you that Hitler is a good leader back in 1942.

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant We're warning you that Trump is 1932 Hitler. But you must know that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYwqpx6lp_s
https://youtu.be/jtYIXPeOim0

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded you are not warning shit and your mouth is not changing anything! on the contrary you are actually encouraging us to make the same mistake your people did in 1932

those junk videos you posted are based on other people's opinions, they been debunked THOUSANDS of times already. seriously dumbass! Biden is FAR MORE LIKE HITLER. he's broken the constitutions numerous of times, fucked with our freedom and has done a lot of fascist/communist moves while in office than any other president in our history has done.

till then why dont you judge politicians on their merits and actions instead of the bullshit propagandas people make on them

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant Nothing wins an argument like denying reality and posting memes.

None of it has been debunked.

Remember, Trump is currently arguing before the Supreme Court that he had absolute immunity from prosecution for any crimes committed while president, and that court, which is one third Trump appointees just denied the plain text of another law in his favour.

Project2025 is about removing bureaucrats from the federal government and replacing them with people who pledge loyalty to Trump, not the constitution.

It even wants to make porn illegal. (I figure that would upset you more than having the independence of the DoJ ripped away.)

Are you in favor of conservatives banning pornography? ↗

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded your one to talk, mr I BELIEVE ALL THE HORSE SHIT I SEE ON THE NEWS. who the fuck named you the god of argument anyways? you dont get to decide who wins an argument you're part of. you can't referee a match that you are boxing on. everything those memes point out are happening in America right now, by the way

and yes its been debunk, just get off your computer and come to America and find out for yourself. those memes oh yeah and Biden is not a criminal!



the only reason why Biden is not facing anything in court is because that court is ran by DEMOCRATS. but watch this November when he gets out of office and all the treasoning he's committed with Hunter start to surface.

"Project2025 is about removing bureaucrats from the federal government and replacing them with people who pledge loyalty to Trump, not the constitution."

yet another horseshit! if that was the case then why didn't that happened in 2017-2021 when Trump was in power?

and wtf does porn have to do with this? AND ONCE AGAIN YOU UPLOADED A MYTAKE ON G@G as your evidence, like the gullible retard that you are

[Filthy_Immigrant]

oh yeah @goaded trust everything written by @supercutebutt one of the biggest trolls on this site's history!



seriously dude you're retardness has no limits huh?

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant OK, I think your last three posts show exactly who you are. I'll leave it at that.

[BCA6010]

Sure... But it was more Biden digging his own grave and not being able to string together a coherent sentence than anything else.

[worldscolide]

I'm pretty sure he fell asleep at least twice during the debate.

[OhLongJohnsoning]

Debates aren't actually debates, they're live television mud-slinging.

Trump told more lies, and biden looked like he couldn't say a word

Why is this country having to choose between these two fools?

[Daniela1982]

Because everyone else dropped out because none of them were worth a shit.

[OhLongJohnsoning]

Actually, if Bernie had been chosen, most people would have chosen him

[Pohjolan]

Chatgpt told to argue for Trump would win a debate with Biden.

Democrats should swap their candidates if they are serious about winning this election.

[Jerre]

Biden was pathetic last night and clearly demonstrated why he should NOT be elected for a second term as President

[Twalli]

Trump won, but he lied more during the debate than he has before. He denied he said things that he double, triple, and quadrupled down on whe he first said them.

[Iron_Man]

You saw it right what do you think? Obviously, you know the answer.

[Dongie]

I was fighting mi Amiga. Fuck biden. I didn't watch it. And she's still bitching.

[lorenzomichael]

Y ah I believe he did. I’ll say this Biden didn’t help himself by sounding like a fucking retard mumbling and looking lost.