So.. Who won🇺🇸🇺🇸?

[Anonymous]

Trump

Biden

Neither

[BCRanger10]

Most of what Biden did was repeat the same talking point we've been hearing for years (to include repeatedly-disproved things like "suckers and losers" and the Charlottesville hoax) and saying, basically, "how dare you, how dare you."

Trump didn't exactly walk away waving the American flag with the place on fire in the background and fireworks going off, but he had a clearly stronger performance than Biden, who as usual sounded like a living corpse. In a way, the indictments were a favor to him because he spent less time on social media, less time on television, and more time with advisors. In both his campaign and in the debate, he's much more focused and disciplined as a result.

[Twalli]

They were debunked according to Trump, as of now. When they first broke, he didn't deny thrm he wad proud about having said them.

[BCRanger10]

@Twalli Charlottesville was also debunked according to USA Today, which pointed out that he made two separate statements which were conflated (and in which he specifically condemned neo-Nazis). It's also been noted that he was referring to debates among those who support and oppose the removal of statutes of figures like Robert E Lee.

As for the "suckers and losers" bit? John Bolton, who HATES Trump, verified that he didn't say it.

[Twalli]

So why did Trump confirm that he made those comments when asked when they were headlines?

[BCRanger10]

@Twalli because he made the comments, just not how they were spun.

[Twalli]

You can understand how I doubt it when he's called those that don't support him vermin.

[BCRanger10]

@Twalli I feel your pain. I don't like it when people throw nasty stuff like that around either. Like when Joe Biden gave that "unity speech" in 2022 in which he called MAGA Republicans domestic terrorists and extremists, or Hillary Clinton called Trump supporters "deplorables".

But then again, that's also not what Trump did or said. His exact words were "We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country", which was not directed towards people who just don't support him.

[Anonymous]

Trump won. The expectations for him are so low that, if he doesn't act like a child, people forget he's an incompetent criminal. In the clips from the 2020 debate, it's amazing anyone voted for him.

Biden has cleaned up most of the mess from the Trump years but couldn't make that clear.

In 4 years, both will be too old. Maybe then, we'll get some fresh choices.

[MysteriousDarkness]

What did Biden have to clean up?

[DreamLife7]

Trump won.. I was so embarrassed for biden. I can't believe bidens team allowed him to go on stage like this

[Anonymous]

It was actually worse than anyone thought it could be! I figured Biden just had to show up and find his way off stage and be declared the "winner"! Guess what, his wife had to take him off stage. What's really funny, is suddenly the media seems shocked by his behavior. Where the fuck have they been the last couple years?

[DextroShade]

Trump and it wasn't even close. Even the democrats admit this was bad and many of them are saying Biden should be replaced. All Biden proved at the debate is that amphetamines don't fix dementia and that he's definitely not going to make it through a second term.

[Kaneki05]

It's sad Americans think either are good for presidents. From Obama a young enough guy to two old guys who argue about Golf or Age or Criminality.
Nether won.

[Asker]

Are you American?

[In_Trance]

Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool

[Amandanator]

A big win for the Don.

[AviatorTom]

I think we all lost 🙊🙉🙈

[Iron_Man]

Donald J Trump

[Pterodon]

Trump smoked him

[SoJust]

Trump

[noohair]

Very sad

[MrFrenchFry]

Trump clearly won