Do you support the death penalty?

[Anonymous]

What is the point of keeping murderers, rapist and pedophiles alive
risking the fact that they might escape at any moment?

For example, Ted Bundy was a serial killer in the 80
He escaped prison 2 times while waiting for trial
Both times he killed more people


before anyone says that we might excute people by mistake , I think making the stake as high as killing someone will improve the accuracy of judicial system

[NaultD]

To me it then becomes a mutual transaction and thinking life as a profitable commodity favoring the murder.

Take the unsolved serial murderer called zodiac killer. He told in clues he believed all his victims will be slaves in he'll. So if we find him he should get a fast pass to his own palace? If we kill him he becomes a martyr to there own legend. Forever immortalized to living history as the monster he wants to be know as.

Now take the golden state killer. Just as famous during the same time. We'll he was caught 2020 I think and he's just an old man dying in jail. He's a trial question now. In a few years he's going to be like everyone else forever forgotten.

[genericname85]

i am personally operating under the moral code that killing another human is wrong. it is always wrong and there's only one notable exception and that is "by accident in self defense". even in self defense your first goal should not be to end the other persons life. the first goal schould be preserving your own bodily integrity and if you're operating under that premise and failed "not" to kill the other person, i think that is morally permissable.

so that means under my moral code (which by the way the entire society i live in agrees with) any intentional and planned killing is morally wrong and should be illegal. that includes killing by government officials as punishment for some commited crime.

[4ngelic]

yea. most serious criminals are clinical sociopaths or psychopaths and will likely reoffend again. for certains crimes like pedophilia and rape they often reoffend right out of prison and go in and out of prison until they're too old to fuck around. they also can't feel remorse for their actions because of how their brain is structured. so we litterally pay taxes to house them, feed them, for no reason. it's not inhumane to kill monsters who can never repent

[strateguy632]

wow i had not noticed that as a category but it seems correct 👨‍🎓 👍

[jennifer_bloom]

I definitely support the death penalty. It would protect innocent people and save tax dollars used to house criminals. I would include the death penalty for crimes of fraud and theft and for minors who torture innocent people to death. In Canada, minors usually get less than 5 years, even for rape combined with murder.

[RainbowMarinade]

@jennifer_bloom
Really? Death penalty for fraud?
Do you really trust your Canadian government enough to allow them the legal right to kill you?
Considering the death penalty doesn’t exist in Canada, I’m going to assume most Canadians are far leas trusting of their government than you are.

I don’t know if you can delete this, but if you can, I know you will.

[jennifer_bloom]

@RainbowMarinade I do not do things that would cause me to deserve the death penalty, such as fraud, or murder, or rape, or child abuse.

[RainbowMarinade]

@jennifer_bloom
“I do not do things that would cause me to deserve the death penalty….”
And you trust the government to believe you when you tell them that? People who are wrongly accused and/or incarcerated for crimes they didn’t commit also did not do anything to deserve the death penalty.
Yet, some are still dealt the death penalty nonetheless.
And you want to give your government MORE POWER to kill its citizens?
You trust your government a lot, huh?
Like, with your life.

[MisterWack]

@RainbowMarinade
I believe Canada should not do death penalty however you are completely being “not a nice person” by saying “ I don’t know if you can delete this, but if you can, I know you will.”
Everyone is entitled to their opinion even if it disagrees with yours. You don’t seem to want to educate, just seems you want to win a debate created in your mind.

[RainbowMarinade]

@MisterWack
It almost like you believe I have never interacted with this poster before.
Is that what you believe?

[MisterWack]

@RainbowMarinade
I believe you are not a nice person.
I already said I agree with your policy stance so, YOU WIN, YOU WON, and you can move on!

[nightdrot]

Voted "No." The purpose of the law in general and the penal system in particular is first and foremost, to protect society, second to punish the guilty and third and least, to reform the criminal if possible. In that order.

Capital punishment, generally speaking, does not seem to afford those benefits. First, it is the surety of punishment, not its severity, that is a deterrent to crime. If an individual is sure that they will be punished, they will likely not act. If that individual believes that they might get away with it, they will likely run the risk.

So in that sense, capital punishment fails its first and most important test. It does not deter and therefore it does not protect the society. Throw in that it applies only in cases of premeditation - crimes of passion are not premeditated - and the range of those whom capital punishment applies becomes proportionately smaller.

Secondly, it is axiomatic that we shape our laws and then our laws shape us. In that context, capital punishment reflects - and is a result of - the society's treatment of life as a means rather than an end. In this it is the parallel of the abortion argument. The planted axiom of liberal abortion laws is that life has no value save that which each individual attributes to it, therefore the law has no proper standing to afford it protection.

Capital punishment is a case of the society deciding that the value of life is contingent rather than absolute. That action decides life's value rather than life's inherent worth. When the society places vengeance over any inherent value to life, it will apt in its larger context to see more of the former and value the latter less and less.

To be sure, in the matter of capital punishment that is at the margins and dealing with decidedly unsympathetic individuals. Arguably the case can be made that "killing the killer" suggests that society places a much higher value on life. However, on balance, the inspiration of capital punishment is vengeance and not justice and thus both the value of life and the value of justice is undermined.

Beyond that, humans are imperfect and there are issues related to failings of the legal system. In the question of justice, the accidental execution of the innocent is not an injustice that can be undone. Indeed, it is what suggests that vengeance - and not justice - is what inspires laws that condone capital punishment.

In short, capital punishment harms society with too few countervailing benefits.

[ADFSDF1996]

No.

Death penalty is one many tyrannical practices that needs to be abolished. America can't call itself a constitutional republic until it becomes less authoritarian.

In order to abolish the death penalty we have to abolish the democrap and republi*unt parties.

[Anonymous]

For certain cases with solid evidence. Yes. Criminals who do not give their victims chance deserve no less than that last min fear of their lives being taken from them. It's more likely a kinder end too.
If this world supported cause and effect or repercussions for actions there would be less criminals. There are areas with decent law enforcement. Mine is not one of them. It's a harvesting ground of people growing with a "I can do what I want attitude." And leads to more dangerous crimes.

[Daniela1982]

There are killers in prison serving life and they kill someone there too. They need to be gone.

[Opinion Owner]

This is true.

[pethouse]

Absolutely not. Unless it’s a big time offender like Jeffery epstine or El Chapo.
Not only has in been proven that it isn’t a deterrent but it also has killed innocents. If your going to kill an innocent man for murder then you might as well kill the judge the jury and the prosecutor when he is found innocent after his death. Another reason why I’m against it is because it shows how barbaric our society still is. It shows that we would rather take a life than save it. We have the resources to prevent crimes and the rehabilitate criminals and yet we still prefer to watch them suffer. And don’t give me that “justice” bullshit there’s no such thing.

[pethouse]

Besides if you were caught by mistake and found guilty then put on death row you’d be retracing your support for it.

[strateguy632]

activities france proved it was a deterrent.

[strateguy632]

*actually

[pethouse]

Then why’d they get rid of it

[strateguy632]

it depends where, if countries would add a jury system like u. s. they should resume death penalty.

as we saw in france *wen canceled death penalty murder RATE increased. proof the death penalty deter some but without it more do murder and more victims.

a jury adds a safe guard for accurate punishment.

u. s. has jury, i get called to jury duty. so we should *hav death penalty.

*what (3 letters) about rape? did not kill so not justice to kill.

[snowboarder720]

There are people who are wrongly servicing sentences and are later found innocent. Primarily black inmates in America. This is why I don’t support the death penalty.


It’s those terrorists that shout up schools, churches, synagogues, grocery stores, music events, etc. they are clearly guilty of hate crimes by murder then yes absolutely they deserve the death penalty. Sometimes I think the death sentence is too good for them.

[strateguy632]

on one hand scool is mass murder bad, but not as bad as hate crime bad.
what about one murder not a a group?

[strateguy632]

i mean a hate crime mass murder.

[snowboarder720]

My answer is the same; I don’t support the death penalty because of the possibility of being wrongly convicted.

[MisterWack]

It costs more to do death penalty than to just keep them in a prison for life… Also I heard somewhere that 4.1% of people on death row right now are most likely innocent. I just don’t feel right letting 4.1% innocent people die just for our view of ‘justice’.

[strateguy632]

how can it be 4% if they all had jury n appeals? that is stupid.

[MisterWack]

@strateguy632
Outdated means of evidence, better technology / advancements in forensics to show new evidence, mishandling evidence based on the past’s outdated ways, and bias could play a role into it (since the South was rooted in racism and would be more likely to try African American man even if innocent all white juries)

[NamerOfStars]

Being intelligent enough to actually HAVE a modicum of morality means you don't kill people for their sexual orientation. If you don't like that, Iran would be happy to have you.

It also means avoiding hypocrisy; if killing people is objectionable, and you kill people who do it, you're not better than they are.

"Better that ten guilty men go free than one innocent one be punished".

[AviatorTom]

I've been asked this question during jury selection. My standard answer. It's wrong to take a person's life.

If we're going to have a death penalty, it should be done online so that anyone can watch it, not hidden in some back room with only a few witnesses. If we can't do thst, then maybe we shouldn't be executing people.

[IslaTheWitch]

if we penalize killing, we shouldn't do it... so I don't support that

[Asker]

Ok
But what if they escaped and killed /raped more children?
Why take this risk?

[strateguy632]

to @IslaTheWitch your logic is incomplete, you refute a law about "killing", but we can still punish murder and kill because different than murder.

[IslaTheWitch]

@Asker, if we kill the murderer, we are the murderers... all people who agreed to that...

most countries don't have death sentence and situations where murderers or rapers run from prison are rare, and they are found before they can do anything... most of them wouldn't do anything anyway... they appreciate normal living...

[llorando]

No, death penalty cost more then life in prison and one too many innocent people have been executed. An innocent person can be freed from prison, but they can't be brought back to life. FYI, the fear of getting the death penalty is sometimes used to get innocent suspects admit to a crime and accept a plea deal.

[RingOfFire]

Yes I support it. I don't want to pay for the incarceration of these animals.

And when they say that it doesn't deter crime, it may or may not deter their first rape or murder, but it certainly will deter their second one.

Don't want the death penalty? Don't do the crime. It's that simple.

[RebelinSteel]

Only in some very specific cases. The problem is crimes are not binary, murder is not always clear cut and you then have this thing of what type of murder would you execute someone for. Ditto with the other examples.

[CrabCakes11]

No. It’s not worth the risk of killing an innocent person. I’d rather let 100 guilty people walk free than imprison one innocent person

[Asker]

So you would rather let a 100 murderer kill again
Obviously we should not excute innocent people
That’s why increasing the stakes will improve the quality of the judicial system
because if they are guilty they will die
So we need to really make sure they are guilty

[CrabCakes11]

You can just arrest them without killing them

[andreasderjuengere]

No, I do not support it.
Not only is this archaic; it also won't help those who were harmed.
I suggest instead: keep them in a zoo so that the public has more animals to look at.
The ape house would be a good place.

[RainbowMarinade]

Do you trust the government enough to let them determine who gets to live and who gets to die?

I do not

[RainbowMarinade]

Because MisterWack, not surprisingly, blocked me.
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

“I believe you are not a nice person.”
Well, you know what they say about opinions and assholes and such, right?
If winning and losing is what you’re after, you will find those willing to play with you.
I am not going to be one of those people.
LoL, so you’re just gonna barge into someone else’s interactions, say “I agree with you” and declare the conversation over? Time to move on?
You understand that my initial point hasn't even been addressed, right?

[Asker]

I trust the justice system
The judge the jury
the evidence

And If I don’t trust the government in the country I am living in , I will most certainly leave this country

[Simslover92]

I think pedophiles definitely deserve the death penalty. I've heard so many stories of them hurting little kids and babies. It's so sick. They don't deserve to live. So yes I support it 100%.

[DrPepper12]

Its a grotesque abomination from a bygone age. Its cruel, unusual and discriminates against poor and minorities. Civilized societies don't have a state that executes its own citizens. Thats not justice, its vengence.

[goaded]

No. Absolutely not. I might consider allowing people with extreme sentences to take their own lives, but that seems lenient on the guilty and likely to affect the convicted innocent more.

[California_Poppy]

I support it in extreme cases and I think we should let people with life sentences choose to have that option.