Did you know that Republicans are planning to roll back access to in vitro fertilization and contraception?

[goaded]

"When state Sen. Richard Briggs voted “yes” on Tennessee’s total abortion ban, he never thought it would actually go into effect.

It was 2019, and Roe v. Wade was the law of the land. His vote seemed like a political statement, not a decision that would soon impact people’s lives."

"In the chat, [state Rep. Susan Lynn, who originally sponsored the law in the House] asked for advice on answering questions about in vitro fertilization and the morning-after pill. IVF, a fertility treatment, generally involves creating multiple embryos, and some may ultimately be discarded. The morning-after pill is emergency contraception that prevents pregnancy if taken soon after unprotected sex. Some wings of the anti-abortion movement would like to see both banned or tightly limited because they believe those procedures amount to terminating human lives. The definition of an “unborn child” in Tennessee’s law starts at fertilization.

Responding to Lynn, the speakers suggested keeping the focus on the current law and reminding voters that IVF clinics and contraception are still available in Tennessee.

... Billy, the vice president of state affairs for Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America, advises lawmakers not to discuss regulating in vitro fertilization and contraception with voters when discussing the current law. They can revisit the topic in a few years’ time, he tells them. Credit: Webinar audio reviewed by ProPublica

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It turns out that Mrs. Pence had IVF. He's so religious, he won't be in a room alone with another woman. He's also so religious that if he was forced to testify under oath, he'd actually tell the truth. No wonder he doesn't want to testify! He's also a Republican politician, so he's written it all down in a book for money.

[Amy10223]

Yes, and that's not all they will do. They will ban gay marriages, not allow gay couples to adopt children, and disallow transgender bathrooms in public areas. They began with Roe vs Wade which was implented in 1973, and will surpass all that has happened in the last decade to ban these as well. I am just glad that the Demoncrats have won the Senate, and that at least they will have a lot more power with curtailing the executive powers of a president, no matter who it turns out to be.

[Roxxy99]

Weakening the right to privacy was never just about abortion. The religious right desires getting between you and your doctor and exerting control over your contraceptive and reproductive choices, as well as who you can marry.

[goaded]

I expect the one related right that won't be taken away (at least not retroactively) will be the one against interracial marriages. Because that would actually affect "Justice" Thomas.

[Roxxy99]

True, plus the equal protection clause was part of that decision.

[Ill_made_Knight]

And every form of marriage that doesn't involve a white boy and a white girl

[goaded]

How old a girl?

[Ill_made_Knight]

most states allow marriage at 16 with parental consent. 18 without.
Thanks for the MHO

[Guy13]

I thought you Germans like this kind of thing...

[goaded]

What do you mean?

[loveslongnails]

The Republican leadership is being infected by its own fringe that want the USA to become Gilead. Though the following quote is often wrongly attributed to Sinclair Lewis, no one knows if there's one author or if it's a compilation of several different quotes:

‘WHEN FASCISM COMES TO AMERICA, IT WILL BE WRAPPED IN THE FLAG AND CARRYING A CROSS’

Clearly, this is the base from which that party is now operating.

[goaded]

They're getting so transparent it seems to be breaking through to people who aren't usually interested in politics. Hence Biden's majority and the worst showing by an opposition party in a president's first midterms for ages.

[inhua]

there's bigger problems in the US than worrying about who's having sex with sex who. if dialing back on sex means keeping homeless people off the streets, food on the table and a reduction in crime, so be it.

[goaded]

Or you could just keep your nose out of other people's bedrooms. 60% of US women having abortions already have a child. Many are in stable relationships. Contraception doesn't always work.

[inhua]

you missed the point entirely

[goaded]

I'm sorry if I misunderstood you. What did you mean by "dialing back on sex", then?

It doesn't cost anything to allow women access to abortions, but it does cost a lot to bring up unwanted babies to adulthood. People aren't going to stop having sex, and even married couples in stable relationships with two or three children can have contraception fail.

[loveslongnails]

" if dialing back on sex means keeping homeless people off the streets, food on the table and a reduction in crime" Huh? How does rolling back access to in vitro or limiting contraception effect ANY of those things? Do you have any idea what in vitro costs, especially if you don't have insurance? People willing to go through that process really WANT a child, and are far more likely to be financially, mentally and physically prepared to raise one.

Also, limiting contraception has never stopped people from having sex, nor did criminalizing abortions. You're completely missing the point, which is about what the Republican Party is planning to do to limit certain choices.

[Anonymous]

When a Republican does something he speaks for the entire party and Republican voting base.

But when a Democrat does something, they only speak for themselves.

🙄

[Ill_made_Knight]

I think we should take the things that people like Clarence Thomas say quite seriously, not really a Republican technically, but definitely a Federalist Society stooge.
They were never actually going to overturn Roe either... were they? But then they did and betrayed American women all across the country... So you're surprised we're carefully watching and listening to what comes out of the mouths of the freedom thieves? That's how it is though.. thought where y'all go one y'all go all...

[goaded]

When a powerful group tells Republicans how they should behave, what they should hide about their true aims, they're speaking for the party, or at least a large proportion of it.

[Opinion Owner]

@Ill_made_Knight Republicans didn’t overturn Roe. The Supreme Court did.

[goaded]

Six liars appointed to the supreme court by Republicans (by presidents who lost the popular vote) did.

[Opinion Owner]

By your logic Republicans also legalized same sex marriage.

[Ill_made_Knight]

with the hand picked federalist society justices that Republicans installed, 3 by #45. One of which McConnell held the senate confirmtion off for almost a year of the Obama administration claiming that no justices would be approved according to precedent... this turned into Neil Gorsuch... then you had Mr Beer Brett Kavanugh... and then Coney -Barrett was installed with only a month left before the 2020 presidential, proving McConnell a liar.
Only a fool would buy the "oops... wasn't us" argument. Republicans have been after the Roe decision since the day it was made... Well ya caught it din'cha... Republicans are now branded as the party of freedom thieves... did it to yourselves

[goaded]

" By your logic Republicans also legalized same sex marriage. "
Bollocks. Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, and Alito dissented.

That was in 2015, before Trump appointed three federalists, and, by the way that 2015 decision led to approximately 134,000 fewer teens attempting suicide each year in the United States.

[Opinion Owner]

@Ill_made_Knight I guess. 🙄 All SCOTUS did was rule that since abortion isn’t outlined in the Constitution they couldn’t rule on the constitutionality of it.

It’s up to the individual states.

[Ill_made_Knight]

Overturning Roe... explain away all you like, YOUR party engineered a step 50 years backwards socially it's an unarguable fact... next you're going to try and say Thomas didn't make the public remarks promising to go after contraception etc etc...

[Opinion Owner]

@Ill_made_Knight Dude I’m pro baby murder. A lot of Conservatives are perfectly fine with abortion. I’m just not so hypocritical as to call SCOTUS a Republican run institution when they rule on something I don’t like. Again, you sing their praises when they rule in your favor, and decry them as activist hacks when they don’t. Double-standards much?

[joeldalton]

They have to start the fear-mongering up early for 2024.

[Ill_made_Knight]

Dude, it is a 9 person panel, 6 of which were chosen by Republicans from a list of highly vetted judges provided by the Federalist Society. Republicans won't appoint a judge with their blessing.
It is questionable if Kavanugh and Coney-Barrett are even qualified... but they were on the list... and Republicans rammed them through, and yes the verb RAMMED is appropriate... Sorry, but if that's the way a party goes about the business of selecting judges then it's on them... allowing a third party to push through social changes that would be near impossible to pass by legislation. FILTHY, and the R's installed the virus for a fistfull of dark money...
Be VERY clear, I do not sing the praises of this court. Republicans gave it life, but it doesn't care about R's or D's... or the American people. Only it's agenda... there will be plenty of decisions that will be decided on merit as they do not effect the agenda. But I will be holding my breath EVERY time a decision of social significance comes up. These jokers wanna go back to 1890... not kidding.