Why aren't the anti-feminists, Incel, MGTOW and the men's rights movement dedicated to outlawing abortion across the country?

[MisogynisticPig]

If they are anti-feminists, they should be dedicated to making abortion illegal, instead of protesting trivial nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Incels are men who are depressed because they can’t get a girlfriend. MGTOW are men who are afraid of being fucked over in divorce court. MRAs are basically feminist men who want absolute equality, but who think that feminism is really about granting women privileges rather than making things equal.

A lot of the men in those groups are only in those groups because they don’t like the way men are treated. Regardless of whether anybody agrees with them that men are treated badly or have a hard time today, that’s their main motivation.

Sure, some are misogynistic, but that’s not their main motivation. The ones who are misogynists are that way because they think that women are to blame. It’s still not their main motivation.

Also people are anti-feminist for different reasons. A lot of people in the above group are only anti-feminist because they see feminists as anti-man, not because they don’t want equality, they do. The only anti-feminists protesting against abortion are trad-cons.

[MisogynisticPig]

Nope, I am openly misogynistic and I am anti-abortion.

[SolitarySolace]

If feminists wanted equality why can’t they work hand in hand with the MRAs?

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah but that’s just you isn’t it?

@solitarysolace because they don’t really want equality. For any of the victim groups claiming to be oppressed gains them power, and they have to pretend that they’re striving to be equal from an underprivileged position to get more power.

[SolitarySolace]

Exactly, @OP

[MCheetah]

If someone doesn't like women, why would they want to support a system where women can f*ck you over by claiming a child is yours, even when it isn't? Not to mention most pro-life men are submissive to women in an effort to support their nuclear family. So why would a man against relationships support the pro-life movement?

I get you're probably very right-leaning and all, but abortion has nothing to do with men's rights, and if anything, hurts it, since men have absolutely no reproductive rights and get f*cked over with child support all the time. Women aren't even required to take DNA tests; their word is enough to hold up in many courts.

So you're knee-jerk right-wing logic doesn't apply here, since being pro-life is a (pointless and stupid) morality argument/opinion, and hurts men more than anything. This logic of yours is so ridiculously ass-backwards. (And I'm an Incel or MGTOW, but am very much against feminism and woke culture.)

[MCheetah]

So *your knee-jerk

[MCheetah]

(And I'm *not an Incel or MGTOW...)

Damn, what's' wrong with my phone today?

[MisogynisticPig]

😹😹😹😹 With illegal abortion, these sluts are forced to support their children, I don't impregnate whores, so I don't worry, if you impregnate a whore and they sue you, you're gross, simple.

[MisogynisticPig]

And it is not stupid, but sadistic, I, for example, am against abortion even in cases of rape, for example, I would be in favor of murdering and dismembering black people like you, of blowing up your mother and cutting off her vagina in pieces, just because I feel like it, I'm also against abortion because I want to see whores cry, do you understand? Or do I have to remind her of her mother's disgusting vagina?

[MCheetah]

@MisogynisticPig
Worrying about what random strangers do regarding their family issues and thinking you're entitled to control that, is the definition of pathetic. And making abortion illegal won't stop abortions; just like making marijuana illegal didn't stop a generation of 420 losers from existing.

Also, I hate my own mother, so your pathetic attempts at trolling literally do nothing. However, pointing out how suicidal you must be to be a 19 year old actual self-admitted Incel, I'm sure probably stings a little if you stopped long enough to remember your own life outside of the internet. I'm sure this is just a silly fabrication and not at all an accurate observation, though. So says the silly n*gger on GAG, right?

[MisogynisticPig]

I'm Incel, it doesn't affect me being one, but I've already made my point understood, I'm anti-abortion because I'm misogynistic, I'm glad that sluts are forced to give birth against their will, did you think I'm anti-abortion for moral reasons? I have no morals, it's like being anti-black and asking a black man, do you want this? If you want this, I will be against it, if the woman wants abortion, I will be against abortion.

[LazerBean]

Most of them are proabortion because they hate taking responsibility of any sort and wouldn't want to have to take responsibility of a child I the even that they ever did manage to get laid.

[Anonymous]

Oh for hell sake stop acting like you're a man

[BeMuse]

Nope. Feminism is a communist weapon. Communist want authoritarianism. They want to live up to the image of a boot stamping on a human face forever. People that are anti-feminist don't want authoritarianism. They don't want to be left alone to live the life they see fit basking in never ending freedom. Overturning Roe v. Wade sends to decision over abortion back to the states. This allows people debate these issues in their local governments among themselves and argue these legal questions in their own courts.

[BeMuse]

*the

[BeMuse]

I know if you're an authoritarian psychopath, it's hard to grasp how people wouldn't want to control the world and force everyone to do what they want to do.

[BeMuse]

*want

[Anonymous]

Why in the world should those groups / people be dedicated to making abortion illegal? There is no connection.

Anti-feminists are against the anti-male rhetoric and dishonesty from modern feminism, and the hatred for males mongered by the movement.

"Incels", if we are to use the term properly, are involuntarily celibate people. They don't have any agenda other than wishing they could get laid, and certainly not one that has anything to do with abortion.

MRM fights for men's rights, period. Again, nothing to do with abortion. They do, however, advocate for men's reproductive rights (i. e., paper/financial abortions), and that is sort of related to abortion in the sense that it is obviously unfair for women to have the legal right to walk away from parental responsibilities but not men.

Your question is based on an illogical/ignorant assumption about these groups.

[MisogynisticPig]

😹😹😹😹 Idiot, feminism wants legal abortion, the hardest blow for feminists is to make abortion illegal. Fool.

[Opinion Owner]

Anti-feminists are not against feminism because they want legal abortion, they are against feminism because of other things. Which part of that are you still struggling with, dumbass?

[MisogynisticPig]

Idiot, anti feminism is against feminism, if they want to hit feminism, they should make abortion illegal, idiot.

[Opinion Owner]

You are obviously ignorant about why anti-feminists are against feminism. They disagree with how feminism views and treats men, not with their stance on abortion. And anti-feminists don't want to "hit" feminism, they want them to stoop doing all the bad things they do. Fighting for abortion rights is not on that list.

I could successfully explain this to any typical 8 year old child. Why are you, a 19 year old, still struggling so badly with such a simple concept? Are you compromised somehow? Are you on the spectrum, perhaps? Did you sustain a serious head injury at some point on your life? Are you under the influence of some substance?

Perhaps more importantly, why are you still pretending to be a male on GAG?

[MisogynisticPig]

😹😹😹😹Idiot, anti feminism opposes feminism in any form, the biggest goal of feminism is to have legal abortion, the best way to hit feminism is to make abortion illegal for them. Fool.

journals. sagepub. com/doi/10.1177/003232928701500206

[Opinion Owner]

LMAO! You posted a link to a 35 year old opinion piece written by a woman just like you. In other words, a woman (like you) who has no clue what today's men who are unhappy about today's feminism care about. You seem to just get dumber and dumber every time you respond.

Look, you ignorant bitch, some men are against abortion and others support abortion rights (just like women), but their views on abortion have little to do with why all men dislike feminism.

You need to do the following:

1) Pull your head out of your ass.
2) As a woman, you should educate yourself on why today's men are ACTUALLY against today's feminism.
3) Use valid, up-to-date sources that reflect today's men's attitudes about today's feminism, not 4-decade-old opinion pieces written by ignorant women like you.
4) Stop pretending to be a man on the internet.

[MisogynisticPig]

😹😹😹😹 No, with my article I have already proven that anti-abortion is part of anti-feminism, and I repeat, idiot, to hit feminism they must outlaw abortion, which will make women stop being whores, as they are in his country, eeuu. Moron.

[Opinion Owner]

If you don't understand why your article proved nothing then you're even dumber than I thought.

And your attempts as a girl to pose as a misogynistic male are pathetically transparent. You're a dumb feminist girl who desperately needs to get a life. You are obviously beyond the sort of help anyone here can give you so I'm done here.

Buh bye

[MisogynisticPig]

😹😹😹😹

[JamesDiaz11]

Probably because they're more concerned with finding a girlfriend/ wife, than worrying about larger social issues. Also, banning abortion isn't something pro-life people do because they want to take something away from women, they are pro-life because they believe abortion is immoral- you're incredibly stupid for thinking their motives are any different.

[MisogynisticPig]

Nope, I'm anti-abortion and I'm misogynistic, simple.

[JamesDiaz11]

You do know a majority of abortions are done against blacks right? We can still keep those, correct? Maybe get those numbers up to 100%?

[MisogynisticPig]

I don't care about blacks, I'm a misogynist.

[Anonymous]

Their objectives are not outlawing abortions. They all have different objectives.

Anti-feminists are looking to blame women, feminists and feminism for their own problems.

Incels blame and hate all women for not being interested in them.

MGTOW are nothing more than extremists, that hate all women and can't see beyond their own bitter experiences and YouTube gold digger test videos.

I would Argue, that men's rights movements are looking for having men a say about abortion instead of having the women being the sole decision maker. Kind of like if you want to be a single parent like that, its your dating funeral.

[Lionman95]

Speaking for the man´s right movement they partly actually do, partly think it´s something good because an abortion helps a guy avoid paying child support so it could also be seen as a benefit for guys.
For all the rest because they have a problem with women in general. They regularly don´t get to have sex so why bother with a topic like abortion then?

[JDavid25]

Well you can exclude Incels and MGTOW.. They are not political, they are also not groups and there are plenty that may support abortion or be "pro-choice".. Anti-feminism and Men's rights are more dedicated to bringing awareness to men's issues and being against the toxicity of feminism.. Abortions rights are out of that realm technically..

[Anonymous]

Some men and women want abortion made illegal and some men and women want it to be legal, that has nothing to do with the movements you mentioned. abortion is not what most of them are concerned with. you don't seem to understand what those movements are all about, any man knows that why don't you?

[MisogynisticPig]

I'm anti-feminist, I'm anti-woman, do you understand, idiot?

[Opinion Owner]

nope, you're a woman, everyone on gag knows that

[MisogynisticPig]

I'm anti-feminist, I'm anti-woman 😎

[Opinion Owner]

nope, you're a woman and everyone on gag knows that

[MisogynisticPig]

I'm anti-feminist, I'm anti-woman 😎.

[Snakeyes7]

That's more of a conservative position to outlaw abortion.

The groups mentioned dislike abortion but the ones I heard think it's better to initiate a cultural change so that people actually learn that it's better to avoid needing to have one in the first place. Outlawing it will only increase state overreach.

[USLegionary]

A lot of MGTOW guys are paying child support for kids they don't get to see.

[Aerissa_Jade]

I'm surprised they aren't pushing to outlaw involuntary child support.

[chicosuave]

Mgtow doesn't care about abortion laws. They don't want to be involved with anything that's a human female

[RedStiletto88]

I don’t think they even know what they want except to blame women for all of their problems.

[captain_voidwalker]

Be ause we aren't anti anything, mgtow especially is just meh i don't give a shit. We love our loves and let women live thiers, along as we stay out of eachothers business women can do whatever.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Because they see how abortion can also benefit them or anyone. That doesn't even have anything to do with being a feminist, MGTOW or whatever but common sense.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Because most of them are toxic jerks and see women as useful for nothing besides sex. And of course, they don’t want any consequences that might come from the sex

[Jenny-Marie]

The right of a women to decide what to do with her body is nothing to do with feminism. It is also nothing to do with anyone else.

[OddBeMe]

I’d imagine they have priorities. But I bet anti-abortion is one. If only to stick it to the libtards.

[maximumpower]

Unfortunately, they don't have the time, concern, or energy to devote to more than one pet issue.

[Anonymous]

Probably because they've been told over and over that they have right to have any input into abortion.

[Dargil]

They are not connected.