Keep in mind, Biden has served in the government under I think 5 or 6 presidents, so he has a ton of experience if war is to break out.
Democrats tend to be good only for domestic affairs, and weak on foreign affairs.
Keep in mind, Biden has served in the government under I think 5 or 6 presidents, so he has a ton of experience if war is to break out.
I wouldn't trust Biden with anything. Even Obama knew that Biden is only good for causing as much disaster as possible!
Which is why he propped up the potato!
See, the lizards at WEF were butthurt that the woman who destroyed Libya out of jealousy, and arranged for Qadaffi's assassination, somehow lost to a game show host.
They stole the election for Biden, with help from some toxic players, like Whitmer and even the freakin' pope!
Why? To inflict maximum suffering and demoralization on all Americans, that's why! We rejected the woman that the lizards wanted. Installing Biden on us was revenge, plain and simple. As were all the riots they orchestrated, with BLM and Antifa serving as useful idiots.
They knew they could, because gone were the days of Minutemen who would righteously fight back against November 3rd: the REAL insurrection! Instead, we have Tide zombies, the browbeaten, the frail, the cowardly, the blind, the overworked, and vice addicts who care more about their next cigarette or lotto ticket, or chance to get laid, as if that were what really mattered in the end!
I think Republicans rely more on offense and threats. Democrats rely more on defense and reaching accommodations. Both systems work with different world leaders.
Good point.
Are you kidding? No I don't have confidence in Biden as commander and chief of our armed forces especially in the case of War breaking out. The man is in bed with China
Nope, not a chance. It would be better for the generals to do things without his input.
He'll probably forget there is a war even going on.
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Yeah, I mean, I’m never really a proponent of war, but I at least trust Biden more than Trump, just due to his ego-driven irrationality. But as a general rule, it’s pretty easy for some septuagenarian to send a bunch of kids barely out of high school all gassed up on “ ‘Murica!” to get maimed and killed. And you see how they get treated when they come back all fucked up, so I hope that gets considered as well. But of course, it won’t🤦♂️
Of course not. Who would after the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle and the indoctrination meted out to our military personnel?
I'm confident he'd shit his pants, walk around aimlessly on stage, rambling about his blond hairs while half the country is getting nuked.
I think that he is pretty old, he can delegate for sure but look what happened when the generals were left months to prepare to get out of Afghanistan. The generals seem inept. So Biden would be better if he had better generals.
Biden was never in the military, so his knowledge of military strategy is poor. If a war broke out, he would have to rely on the Joint Chiefs and his staff. Realistically, they would make the decisions.
I have more confidence in my dad’s basset hound than I do in the dumbass in chief
I don’t think Biden can tie his shoe laces. Maybe send him over to China to sniff peoples hair.
Biden is not in charge. He can’t remember what he had for breakfast and does what he is told. The problem is that we cannot tell exactly who is in charge.
No I have no confidence in that man. He's been caught on camera sleeping. He's never alert and cannot make decisions on his own. He is incompetent. But I don't want him dir in off either.
This guy could not even keep his dog from biting people, how is he goin g to lead the most powerful military in the world?
No, he is a corrupt puppet. He has been wrong on foreign policy for 40 years. If Hunter Bidens laptop wasn't covered up he would not have won. There was a lot of election fraud and ballots showed up late... plus cheat by mail.
Biden is not the president. Xi Jinping is our president. That's why we gave China 85 billion in high tech weapons.
Far more confidence than the countries preceding embarrassment.
"I just got my butt wiped'.
Yeah, no... dementia Joe and his merry woke band of idiots would be clueless in war.
Absolutely not.
He's been out of his depth for decades.
Just because he’s been there for 40 years doesn’t mean he knows shit about war
I have negative 85 billion confidence in him.
I do. More than I would trump, that's for sure
We wouldn’t be worrying about wars breaking out if Trump were president.
@SolitarySolace HAHAHAHHA
@SolitarySolace we wouldn't need to...
more than I did with Trump.
Trump's report card on foreign affairs: www.washingtonpost.com/.../
Are you frigging kidding? Did you not pay attention to what happened in Afghanistan?
@Exterminatore while Biden did a sloppy job--don't forget that this was a deal made between Trump and the Taliban.
Idc what deal was made. Who executed it? Who chose to go forth with plan?
@Exterminatore and if the deal was not kept and the Taliban killed the civvies and our people? what? you'd be all swoon by Biden then? that was the deal... patch up and move out or lose men. you don't walk away from a war with both sides getting together in the middle of a campfire singing cumbia! this ain't laser tag!
@Exterminatore ''pack up''.
@Exterminatore and on the subject of our people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWQt9PxCQF8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h58KAg09R-E
I was in the Marine Corps. I was part of Operation Safe Departure which was the evacuation of the US embassy in Eritrea, Africa in 1998. At that time was it was literally in the middle of a war zone. Ethiopian fighters even strafed the Embassy. We pulled out roughly 120 Americans and 20 foreign nationals.
Would you like to further educate me on what a war is or isn’t and how that type of mission is supposed to go?
Biden screwed it up badly. Not Trump. Trump wasn’t in office. That’s the bottom line.
Only people from your generation can have never even served in the military, but have played Call of Duty and feel that means your all educated about war. Frigging hilarious.
@Exterminatore nice story... but I have my doubts... took you a while to respond... much longer than before--long enough to look all that up. according to this report: www.latimes.com/.../...-jun-08-mn-57846-story.html . plus, I don't even play call of duty, smartass.
@Sabretooth: You have no original thoughts of your own? All you ever do is post videos and links on my page.
You did the same ish with Stoner last week.
I'm going by the facts. sorry if they don't conform to your narratives.
What facts? Posting a video or link is fine. Posting dozens of videos and links you most likely don't even read makes you look like a fool.
All you ever do is post videos with people talking ish on it and giving their opinions.
instead of naming calling--debunk what's being said.
I have my own thoughts. You may not like them and that's fine. We're entitled to our own opinion but not our own facts
@Sabertooth
Do you really think I looked up some obscure military mission to state false credentials?
I was never in East Timor, Indonesia for Operation Stabilize nor In Kuwait for Operation Southern Watch. I most definitely did not get dysentery in Kuwait. I positively never flew over Iraqi air space. Whatever rumors you may hear, I positively never earned a Marine Corps Expeditionary medal for Operation Safe Departure, nor an Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal for Operation Southern Watch, nor a Humanitarian Service Medal for Operation Stabilize. If you ever hear me state I’ve seen multiple people shot or that I was once fired upon in Jordan by the Jordanian military it was all a lie.
I just make these things up to impress other dudes on the internet.
I’m surprised that even made the papers. That operation was listed as secret, not Top Secret, just plain Secret for a while. The details have been unclassified since.
www.csmonitor.com/.../Eritrea-1998
@Exterminatore people do that all the time.
@Exterminatore I've been lied to far too many times and dealt with with with far too many fake people my entire to blindly trust the words of strangers.
@Sabertooth
You’re not good at spotting real liars. Who the hell is going to look up some mission that’s in the back pages of history all just to get your approval? In fact until around 5 years ago or so you couldn’t even find that operation listed in the Navy and Marine Corps Awards Manual.
If my self esteem were so low I needed your approval I’d just say I was Delta Force in Afghanistan and took out 82 people single handedly with a knife, and earned 15 medals for valor, but none of those medals are on my DD214 because they’re so top secret.
That’s how people who do stollen valor do it. Meanwhile they can’t even tell you basic stuff like what their MOS was or look at you confused when you ask what AO they were in. They wear medals out of order and uniforms improperly. Like so badly they even wear civilian gear with it. They call magazines - clips, rifles - guns, and don’t even know military rank structure let alone the corresponding pay grades. Mostly though they have outrageous tales of flying around in black unmarked helicopters that they as an enlisted man flew themselves, and how they used laser guided tomahawk cruise missiles to take out a machine gun bunker.
Frankly I don’t care if you believe me. It doesn’t take anything away from my point.
@Exterminatore I'm pretty good at reading people and plays... it's why my eldest aunt always came to me for advice... she'd be about your age. you tried passing of a mission as flaws it wasn't. a skilled liar would know these things... a few have been very successful in such a grift... for a while I acknowledged that there were problems... just like the one who based your case on. nothing in Trump's history indicated Trump would've done any better.
@Sabertooth
“I tried passing of a mission as flaws it wasn’t.” Wtf is that supposed to mean?
@Exterminatore you made it seem like there were no problems. According to that reporting--it wasn't. In fact--according to that reporting--it... It wasn't much different and suffered from many of the same problems.
@Exterminatore ''flawless''.
look, maybe I'm wrong about you and did serve but I can't verify that and I've become very cynical.
Which? Operation Safe Departure? That went off without a hitch. 0 casualties. 100% mission accomplishment. 0 civilian casualties. 0 people left behind. 0 damaged equipment, minus the embassy which the Ethiopians strafed a few times and 0 equipment left behind. We even surprised the locals when we fanned out in front of the airport in Asmara the Capital because we literally just came out of nowhere. We were already in the Red Sea near the Gulf of Aquaba after having just departed the Persian Gulf. They pulled us off Operation Southern Watch in May of 98 and had us start moving that way because they knew it was gonna get nasty there, and we got there so fast and quietly, when the sun came up we had the airport surrounded because we were already on the way as soon as they thought there could be a possible problem. They didn’t wait for the call for help. We were already off the coast of Africa when the war started there, just waiting. It was a much smaller operation than the withdrawal from Afghanistan, none the less it was in the middle of a war zone also. There was supposed to be a cease fire. I assure you there was not. There was a real lot of small arms fire a quarter of a mile away or less.
The withdrawal from Afghanistan however was a complete debacle. Piss poor planning, piss poor operation. It was as if they just decided 3 hours before to pull out with 0 planning. They even let Bagram AFB go. Great idea. Always abandon a strategically positioned air base in the middle of the biggest airlift in history and leave behind US citizens in the process. That’s not even military’s fault. It’s Biden and his administrations fault.
@Exterminatore according to that report-U. S. military officials dispatched two C-130 cargo planes to Asmara for evacuation of Americans over the weekend. The planes rescued 118 Americans and 58 citizens of other nations Saturday, taking them to a base in Amman, Jordan, a State Department spokeswoman said. By late Sunday, the United States had evacuated 368 people, including 231 Americans, she said.
“The U. S. government continues its coordination with other governments to assist any remaining Americans who may wish to leave Eritrea,” the spokeswoman said.
However, there were no more flights scheduled to carry Americans out of the country.
The U. S. Embassy in Asmara remained in operation with a skeleton staff, despite several bombing raids by Ethiopian pilots flying MIG-21 jet fighters. is that inaccurate?
@Sabertooth
So where’s the flaw? The embassy getting strafed? There was supposed to be a cease fire.
On top of that embassies don’t have AA guns or SAMs on them. That can’t be helped. We got everyone out who was going and took no casualties either military or civilian.
The ones who stayed behind were directed to do so. They weren’t left behind. There were also Marine guards at the Embassy and after we arrived Navy Seals and Marine Force Recon, who came with us there for a while also.
They weren’t left to fend for themselves, and we loitered off the coast for about a month after we pulled those people out so we could provide immediate evacuation and immediate air strikes if need be, and by immediate I mean the entire time everyone was on stand by and locked and cocked and ready to go back in right now. Planes already had ordinance on them. We already had our gear on and took turns being on standby in shifts. Like they could have called for help and air strikes would have been there in less than 5 min and in less than 10 CH-53s and Sea Knights would be full of Marines for additional support and to pull the rest out. We didn’t just leave them hanging.
Like after the Seals and Force Recon escorted the people a few blocks from the embassy to the Airport, some of them stayed behind to help beef up embassy security, plus they had the entire 11th MEUSOC, that’s 2,200 marines on stand by. If need be we could have deployed Tanks and all kinds of Armored vehicles and about a 1000 Infantry men. It probably would have taken a few hours for the big stuff to roll in there but 200-300 Marines were ready to deploy in an instant plus air strikes, plus guided missile strikes, though admittedly missiles would probably have not been a good option for that type of mission.
@Exterminatore you don't consider the lack of flights scheduled to carry Americans out of the country a problem? further the port states: ''As of Sunday, no evacuation order had been issued for Americans in Ethiopia, although State Department officials said that U. S. government employees in the northern Tigre and Gondar regions have been relocated. Officials are also warning U. S. citizens to remain in contact with the U. S. Embassy in the Ethiopian capital, Addis Ababa.''.
''post''.
@Sabretooth
No, Everyone who wanted out got out. It went like this: the embassy said: “if you want out get to the embassy.” We went in there. Initially we pulled out like 150 US and 50 foreign nationals. There were 2 C - 130. Those are huge ass places. I think they’re not used anymore. They’re so big they can fly multiple tanks into a combat zone.
Over the next few days we coordinated helicopter airlifts away from the capital for anyone else who couldn’t make it out. Anyone who wanted out got out, anyone with orders to stay had immediate support on standby for back up.
*planes not places
@Exterminatore seems like there was every intention of leaving them behind. ''U. S. officials said they “regret the decision to evacuate Americans” and that it was based “solely on security grounds [and] does not reflect a change in our bilateral relationship with Eritrea.”.
@Sabertooth
No, that says they regret having to pull our ambassador and civilians out, not wanting to send the message we are done doing business with Eritrea. About a month before we went in there Force Recon and SEALS went in there before the war started and delivered a tun of weapons and munitions and provided training courtesy of the U S and A. We knew they were going to get into a war with Ethiopia and were supporting it. The Ethiopians knew too. That’s what they strafed our embassy.
So, they pulled them for their safety only NOT as a signal that we were ceasing diplomatic relations.
@Exterminatore read it from the report... word from word.
I just did. Pulling your ambassador says 🖕🏻.
It’s the equivalent of unfriending someone on FB and blocking their number. It means those two nations are no longer on speaking terms.
@Exterminatore said ''Americas'' not ambassador.
Who exactly do you think was pulled out of there? The ambassador and most staff at the embassy, along with Peace Corps volunteers and missionaries.
Really the only people left at the embassy were our troops and maybe 10 civilians.
That’s why that Operation was classified for a while. It involved special forces and extracting our ambassador from the war zone plus the embassy.
Not to mention everyone else we pulled out.
@Exterminatore or, was it to cover up mistakes? it's not like that has never happened before. this hardly seems like a glowing report.
In fact I don’t even think there were 10 civilians left, more like 2-5 if I remember correctly. We were at the Airport…well surrounding it really, like 3 blocks away. It was the SEALS and Force Recon who went to the embassy and got them from there to the air port where the planes were ready.
There were no mistakes. We had to pull them. There was heavy duty fighting just a few blocks from the embassy and it got strafed more than once when we were there.
And as far as the rest it was just us regular infantry marines who got the rest out by helicopter. In that situation we made like a mini base, and by mini I mean no tents even. Just camo netting and a few marines and a few corpsmen (navy medics) and a couple of vehicles and a pallet of MREs and water. That’s it really. We weren’t there to hang out. Just have a staging area where we could get a chopper in and get anyone else out who couldn’t get to the embassy. It was much, much safer there. Not even one shot fired in anger.
@Exterminatore the report doesn't seem to paint the same picture. certainly not a picture that I would want seen.
It doesn’t mention anything about casualties, or damaged equipment or equipment left behind or people left behind does it?
That’s not a report, it’s an article from the LA Times and says very little about what happened. It was written 2 days after we evacuated the embassy.
We continued operations there until the end of June. June 25th to be specific.
Not to mention it says very little about what happened there. It was classified at the time. Now it isn’t, however It was not a huge operation. I’m surprised that newspaper article even exists. Hell, I didn’t even know the official name of the mission we did there until maybe 5 years ago. All I know is my Marine Corps Expeditionary Medal was from Eritrea, Africa when I got out. They didn’t even tell us the name of that operation.
In contrast to Operation Southern Watch. That one we knew we the name of the mission because it went on for years and at that time was the only opportunity to engage in combat operations against Iraq. They also told us we were now part of that mission when we passed the Straights of Hormuz and entered into the Persian Gulf.
@Exterminatore both you and that article mentioned people being left behind.
@Exterminatore as for casualties, an article that I'm readings says ''It was another beautiful day in Nairobi. It is almost always a beautiful day in Nairobi, but on Friday August 7, 1998, that beauty was marred by a terrorist attack on the U. S. Embassy Nairobi that left more than 200 dead and another 5,000 injured.''.
The people left intentionally. Not accidentally.
That attack on Nairobi was just that an attack. That again is not pulling out of a country you have been in war at for 20 years with apparently no plan and leaving behind like 100 citizens and billions of dollars of equipment and taking 18 casualties while defending an indefensibly position, all which could have been easily avoided.
*were left intentionally.
lol, no.
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