Here's an interesting article about how desegregation could work:
www.theperspective.com/.../
Love Tulsi. A trans-man is never going to be able to compete against male athletes but a trans-woman is still a man will dominate womens sports which is exactly what has happened. Men are stronger, faster, fitter etc so a woman can't compete against a man.
I don't see a reason to stop women playing in men's tournaments and some sports allow this already.
Most won't be able to hack it but if some can, more power to them.
I tend to agree the cross pollination of styles would be interesting for both sides but do not agree women would simply catch up.
Women should have their own showcase though as many sports are a meritocracy that would naturally sideline women (imagine the headlines).
Trans women have benefited from testosterone at some point in their development and are not potentially on the same playing field as women.
I don't therefore see that they can compete with women.
Reminds me of the Russian "women" they had in sports like shot putting and hammer throw in the past. Everyone suspected they were men aka early trans women. Many say that trans women are actually men so they should not compete in women's sports. I guess that would depend on how far their treatment went. With the hormones their muscles and build would no longer be male but I suspect that they still could be stronger than an actual female.
Didn't a middle Eastern country a few years ago put an all male team into the Olympics recently?
Maybe you're unfamiliar with Russian women. lol
@IlluminatiExposed0 east Germans had a thing
I love Tulsi.
Transwomen need their own category, their bodies are completely different than female bodies and this is why men and women are separated according to sex. Just like athletes can be separated in sports based on weight.
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This ya just kinda have to keep it to biological sex. Otherwise it just causes a south park episode. That's just kinda has to be the way it say's not cause it's attack on trans or discriminating them, just brings up to many way's of abuse and unfairness. Or the option just let everyone compete and see the ones winning be the ones abusing the system.
Don't really matter to me since idc about sports anyway.
It would likely give you just as much if not more of an advantage than taking performance enhancing drugs.
So yeah I think it's basically cheating.
They need to be in a league of their own, or they need to compete with everyone else born with a Y chromosome.
Trans women have a huge advantage over biological women. It's unfair for them to compete with women in sports. The issue isn't only testosterone. You have to look at fast twitch muscles , lung capacity, skeleton structure, bone density, body mechanics , all of which gives male athletes huge advantages over female athletes.
An average trans women can compete at the highest level in a woman's category of sport. Hormone treatment doesn't balance anything off or make it fair.
Just abolish women's sports since apparently gender is an arbitrary category and women and trannies can try to compete against real men and fail.
Yeah man, in anti-feminist circles, the fact that an under 15-year old boys soccer team beat the US women's national team in a scrimmage is touted a lot. It's not the only instance of a women's national team losing to tween boys.
The Williams sisters once claimed they could beat any man outside the top 200, so Karsten Braasch ranked 203 challenged them and he decimated them after he had played a round of golf, smoked a pack of cigarettes, and drank some shandies.
The performance gap is massive when it comes to athleticism, and that's why transwomen deserve all the ire they get when trying to compete against women. It's a despicable thing to do really, an ameture man who can barely compete against men can just start identifying as female and easily take first against the top women of the world. It's similar to when able-bodied individuals try to compete in the special olympics by faking a disability.
Part of me feels like women deserve it for aligning with trannies in the intersectional coalition... but I can hardly stand the sight of a big-ass man with long hair standing at the top of a podium, smiling triumphantly with two tiny women on either side of him trying to look happy. It's unjust.
trans women are they same as cis women. The left can't have it both ways. Some countries will arrest people for using the wrong gender pronoun. we can't allow them to play both sides of this issue. If they want to tgeach our children that trans are the same as the sex thart they identify with then it has to be complete across the board, otherwise it will be obvious that they were just making shit up and imposing it on us under penality of law
i wonder who all of the cucks are that down voted me. You are all qa bunch of chomos
It's unfair to let biological men play against biological women since our muscles grow faster and easier.
Let them play, women can compete with trans women. It just decided by how much effort they are willing to put in to match them.
Well, since "trans-women" don't exist, I have no thoughts. Males have no business in women's sports, period and end of discussion.
Yes, I'm a hardcore asshole because science cannot be beat no matter what. And I'm a hardcore asshole because men who can't compete with other men have to destroy women's organized activities. Good. Well at least this hardcore asshole is all about survival of the fittest. And you ain't in the class, as your the weak sheeple that will be slaughtered by the wolves.
You'd be the one pushing eugenics; not me. Quite sad that you aren't reading what I wrote. You think you are. But you're not. You have this false assumption that I am transphobic. I'm not. You can't beat science. And people who want to "pick their gender" as you put it are only living in denial. Hey, if they want to, fine. But they will not take away from somebody else for them to be "included." That's not how it works. They want equality? Then they can start trans leagues of sports. Nothing wrong with that.
I really don't care. Private sports companies should choose their own rules and if athletes don't like it, they can compete somewhere else.
Trans-women are not women, and they should not be competing with women.
Under no circumstances should a biological male be competing against a biological female in a serious, competitive sport.
Lol you sound like a Muslim or a right wing Christian
Either keep male and female events separated by biological sex or just do away with male and female events and have everyone against each other.
Men on average have a lot of advantages when it comes to athleticism.
We are usually taller, we build muscle faster, we have lower bodyfat (meaning we can compete in lower weight classes with a strength advantage.)
"Wouldn't some girls beat some guys?" Yes, but the winners will overwhelmingly be men.
You asked this question for one reason and one reason only... YOU ARE RACIST!!! ARRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
There are rules against using performance-enhancing drugs, surely there should be rules against gaining an advantage by changing your sex. Those fake women couldn't compete against real men.
Create a third tier of athletes who don't know what sex they are.
Keep them out! They are a disgrace to the sport and are dragging it down.
Sounds like you belong in Saudi Arabia lol
Two options
1. Create a separate category for them.
2. Or only allow that ones who had a complete transition
There are literally men who will take advantage of this to cheat in women's sports.
Unfair to have trans women competing with biological women.
Just create a sports league for trans people just as we have male and female leagues.
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