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I am 69 years old. My wife is 60. Anyone want to bet on whether that happens?
Dayum bro, aren't y'all out of time already?
We are out of time for having babies - obviously - but not out of time for having fun!
I guess
No guess, that is for certain. We are both still healthy and active. No canes, walkers, portable oxygen tanks, etc. We are good for years to come, based on our current health.
Okay 😂
@OlderAndWiser Never say never
@exitseven 10-4!
The crib is closed but the playpen is still open!
@SugarSugarplum Yes, ma'am!
Sorry, man. Don't have the money for that. I am willing to say, "Sure, why the hell not?"
You'll probably both die before the child reaches the age of majority but then again adoption is always an option.
😂 . .
@osmanthus. It would be horribly unfair to a child to adopt when i am 69 years old. I would be 87 when he or she graduated high school (if I lived that long.)
Al Pacino fathered a kid at EIGHTY-THREE, but with a much-younger broad.
@handsomelad70 . . . and Al Pacino will be in the ground when his child needs a dad the most.
My ex hubby just had a son with his wife (47 years) old. I guess my two kids will care for the 1/2 brother if anything happens to them.
His widow will remarry, to another rich chap, so the kid will have a stepfather.
Don't see how it would be unfair. If by chance one or both of you end up dead somewhere between now and the next ten years, a child being adopted won't have to live in poverty and without guardianship.
Sounds about right, given the age disparity and average life expectancy.
I mean adopting out your own child. Not you as a couple adopting a child into your own family.
@osmanthus. Parents are not fungible. Having your mother or father die when you are 6 or 8 or 14 years old has devastating long term consequences, despite the fact that someone else assumes guardianship of you.
@osmanthus. Do you know what it’s like having your parents put you up for adoption? Apparently not. I know because my wife’s parents did that to her and the consequences are still visible fifty years later.
That occurrence is the parents' choice. Nobody else has that say whether that becomes the case or not. Sure. It sucks but life isn't fair. Boo hoo.
I never said all parents gave a shit about their kids enough to consider that
The only way I see that happening is if there's unexpected knock on the door from a Kid that looks oddly like an Ex.
Having my 5th here soon 👶
You are a baby cannon apples 😆
Ooh. Congrats!
😂 😂
@DishLady thank you
I agree. Five babies is a lot for the average city woman (that is, if you are).
No, but that doesn't mean I rule it out. I don't like the current trend in the world, if I imagine what the future looks like that's a feature I don't want to life in. I don't want my children to grow up as mind controlled slaves. Mind reading tech is closer than most people think, and there is already enough thought policing going around. Its not hard to imagine that in 10 - 20 years they will use brain reading devices to make sure your a good citizen. We have seen with the lockdowns how restrictive the west can become, we know they are trying to use climate change as an excuse for further social credit scoring and movement restrictions.
So when I think of children I think of children that will be forced to agree with the establishment, that won't be allowed to truly think for themselves. That will just have to work a job and have very little freedom compared to how I grew up.
So I am going to hold off until I see that trend changing, to when I can be decently certain they will have a life of liberty and joy. I want a good future for my children, and right now I just don't see it yet.
This doesn't go as far as the kind of scanning i know will exist, but sneak peak of the general vibe. Now its in China, its a matter of time like with the other policies I have seen : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMLsHI8aV0g
I concur.
They're already trying to pigeon-hole people with this far-out idea of social credit in China. A crazy amount of surveillance for the sake of public safety, they say, but then again it doesn't allow people to have much of a personality/character outside of what society tells a person they ought to be doing or not doing.
Anyway, that is beside the main point but still valid.
Yes, I would like to have children one day. I'm single, so for now I have no one to talk about this.
I do think it's important to discuss this topic with your partner in the beginning of the relationship. If one wants children and the other doesn't, that will cause problems.
Yea it should probably be brought up pretty early into the relationship or even better before committing to each other
Yes, that's right.
Maybe. There are various reasons why people don't want children, nowadays, and I often share their reasons; lack of stable income, having to go through hours of labor, etc. I suppose a person can go through IVF if they're already past the threshold of being capable or other condition prevents them or maybe the spouses or partners just aren't capable.
There's many reasons why it's smart to postpone having children but it's only good to bring life to the world if you ever find yourself in a good point to do so, hope you get to that point and manage to keep your family tree going 💯
Sure. It's ideal to be able to but many times people don't. Children are being born out of wedlock and in terrible conditions all the time. I never would say all humans are on the same level of mental capacity to consider giving birth when its ideal to do so.
Maybe not but mental capacity isn't limited and can change depending on many things, if someone is in a bad state of mind I due believe that when they find themselves in a better spot in life, that mine state will change.
Perhaps, every person has their reasons for foregoing child-bearing
Agreed!!!
I understand, but lack of stable income has always been a problem, and people still gave birth to children. My grandpa had 9 siblings and their parents were broke, they lived on subsistence agriculture and barely had anything to eat, but he told me that the best times of his life were in his childhood. When he moved to the city and got a job, he was miserable all the time. So I don’t understand why the lack of stable income is such an excuse
@mateta_haidara I wouldn't pen "lack of a stable income" as an excuse; not everybody is capable of living the lifestyle you described. Most likely they grew up in those conditions and held a particular mindset about it throughout the entirety of their lives. For people who've never been trained to do that or saw how a health problem could be devastating to that way of life, it makes sense why many rural people opt to have more children for labor.
Having children is no less deemed an "insurance policy" for agricultural or rural folk as it is for most Asian cultures who were primarily living in agrarian lives.
Well, they didn’t have the mindset that they deserve more, they didn’t scroll on social media to envy some scumbag like Andrew Tate or some bitch flaunting their assets. They only cared about having food on the table and surviving. They wouldn’t be more miserable than rich kids. Mental health hospitals are full of rich kids. Money brings you happiness if you make it yourself, not if your dad and mom do.
@mateta_haidara A lot of the statements you made were "assumptive" that if x is so then y is such. Not everyone thinks that way.
Then they deserve not to reproduce and leave nothing in this world, it’s their choice, but they shouldn’t promote this trend and convince so many people not to have kids because they are not rich.
No I don't. I'm not saying there's 0 chance but there's a lot of other things I'm focused on, My priorities do shift over time. When I learn new things, shift my perspective and achieve goals, new things become important. But a lot would have to change from where I am now to make having children my priority.
Yea there's still time tho
No and yes.
My partners know on date one that I'm childfree. It isn't something I think should be a surprise, it should be a filter. If a parent to be doesn't want to date me, they deserve to know right up front.
I don't know if I get what you are saying
I agree. Its something i put upfront too.
No, I have never wanted biological children. I don't ever want to give birth.
If I happen to want a kid at some point, I might go for adoption. But no, no biological children, absolutely no.
You could've had a effective family tree in society Account but I'm surprised more women don't back out from all the pain and 9 months of suffering lol
It is not just the pain. There are more things. I would rather take an abandoned child rather than have one of my own. I won't list the lessons but it is better for me
Reasons* not lessons
I'm sure there is more things, for example walking around with that belly and shit, gotta be hella uncomfortable, pulling on your back and stuff
It is not that lmao, I have never even thought of that but thanks for adding one more reason 🤣 , I would just think it would be more beneficial for me (and for the hypothetical child) if I ever decide to adopt, rather than give birth to another human
Yea I guess, cause for me there's something about the idea of participating in keeping my bloodline alive that kinda makes me feel forced to have kids, the more family members you have the higher the chances of not being forgotten or other family members, like some coco shit lol
I always wondered if a woman's mentality changes after having a child, I feel like pain bonds them with the child and I believe maybe that's why it was designed that way, cause that mother instincts stuff is real, it's like women's brains unlock a new part of their brain when they give birth ha.
A whole litter full. I’m a little behind schedule 🥲 I’m hoping those twins and triplets genes come on top from my mom.
How would the genes even play the part, do they grab sperm cells quicker or something 💀
I hope so 😆
I definitely do, I've always known I want children, at least two although a larger family does appeal to me so who knows. We have talked about it a bit and I know he'd like them too.
That's good, baby steps missy, baby steps, pun intended lol
Indeed, I'll just take it as it comes
I would be open to it.. but that's not something I would plan by myself
first things first... lol
to find someone with and worthy for as well
Yea that's probably the hardest part
yes, because it's worth that much
Yes, hopefully one day. God willing. Not too many just as much as I can afford and my body can handle.
That sounds like a good goal
I want ten. I have since I was a little girl. Truthfully though, I'll start with one or two and re-evaluate.
You are gonna evolve into a super mama with 10 kids 😆
Yes, I want to have a daughter named Ariel-Charity. And, I plan not to have children until I'm married.
That's a good choice, sounds like you've got it all planned out already, never too young to start planning, cool 👍🏽
Ofc. My whole life is planned. Although, I have to add some things in there that are coming up soon. by the way, can I have like $600?
If I had that money rn I probably would've blown it on a new gun, well keep planning stuff tho I guess
So... no money? I NEED MONEY NOW! And why do you have so many guns?
I like guns, guns is like your drums and books, but guns are my drums and books, why does your small ass need 600 dollars anyways, new drum kit? Lol
No... I need to buy something under the table that you need to pay for bc I'm still 600 short.
Under the table? Why you talking so edgy bro, what is it? 😂
Uh...
Fuck that, got abortions for a reason and got a partial hysterectomy after em for a reason.
Someone should've drowned you in coca cola for a reason 💀
I wish so too lol I'd be better off
Dayum what's with the emo sabe shit all of a sudden 💀
Lol hon I've been suicidal for over a decade xD this ain't new. Plus I have a morbid sense of humor lol
So you'd enjoy being drowned in coca cola is what you are telling me 😂
Why are you suicidal tho?
Lol xD not ideal but it would work faster xD
Oh god where to begin. I'll dm
Alright let's see why you wanna drown in coke
Nature & bad luck made the decision for me. I can't bare children.
Is it cause of your back? 🫠
Nope. The nursery doesn't work.
Oh, damn, sorry to hear that, that sucks
Really sorry to hear that. At least you can live your life to your fullest potential and not have any financial burdens. You can also be the cool aunt 😊
I'd like to have two more, but I'll need an egg donor and surrogate.
That shouldn't be too difficult right?
I don't know for sure. Hopefully not!
Agreed
No i don’t.
Don’t want the responsibility. Don’t like the idea of being “tied down”. I value my sleep and money and i prefer my own company
I plan on having 1 more at some point in the next few years, maybe.
Nice, I wish you well on that, keep supplying the world with children, I'm sure God is proud 😆🙏🏽💯
I don't know if God is proud of that? I'd be more likely to have tons if they popped out after a month instead of 8-9. Were you being sarcastic? Lol, I can't tell with words
Nope.. no sarcasm, God gifted you the ability to make kids, he gave you a baby oven and if I recall properly you have a husband correct? You are playing all the cards right and how God designed it to be, next comes how you care for your children but from our small previous convos I've had with their momma, I believe they are in good hands cause you seem like a good mom, seems like a strong relationship and one can only assume their father will be a good father as well.
Correct! Thank you for the good mom comment ❤️ 🙏
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