Not at all , no girl is going to tell me what I need to look like , if she doesn’t like the way I look , so be it and good luck to you. Not every girl is going to like us and not every girl is not going to like us , Everyone has their own preferences of what they like and don’t like , so never change who you are to appease anyone. If you like working out and want to be shredded , work out and get shredded , if you like having a Dad bod have a Dad bod , just accept yourself for who you are , never let anyone tell you what they think you should be or what you should look like , those type of people can honestly Go Fuck Themselves , they are usually the biggest hypocrites on this planet , that act like their shit doesn’t stink , I can’t stand people that are that way. If you have nothing nice to say , than don’t say it at all , keep that shit to yourself. People that open their mouths in a rude disrespectful way , look like the biggest assholes on this planet. They don’t realize they are making themselves look like a complete idiot. Judgmental people are usually insecure about themselves, they project their own insecurities on to someone else, to make themselves feel better about themselves , not realizing they look like a complete moron to everyone else around them. I have witnessed so many guys’ that exercised on a daily basis and lived in the gym. getting turned down from girls’ because of their cocky stuck up attitude , thinking they are better than everyone. A wise girl will see right through that bullshit , a desperate insecure girl , will more than likely fall for it , a girl that needs validation constantly to feel accepted , my advice is stay away from girls’ like that , they can be nice to look at and have sex with , but they usually aren’t relationship material and usually they are not faithful, they jump ship the next opportunity they feel is best for themselves. They see no wrong In themselves whatsoever , My soon to be ex wife is a prime example of that type of girl , very selfish and only really cares about what is best for herself , I feel bad for any guy that falls for her shit , but I will gladly shake his hand and say Good luck with that shit lol
Yeah but generally speaking what women find attractive are men who are in shape. Women can say the find dad bods attractive all they want but objectively speaking, the men who are fit are going to be attractive to more women
Listen... women always say shit they don't really mean. It's like pulling teeth just to get them to admit that height matters. They don't walk what they talk. Pay attention to their actions and never listen to a woman's words ever again.
I genuinely don't believe they do. It's not an attractive feature. I believe that athletes are what most people aspire to look like because an athletic body embodies fitness and health.
I think that women that say they like dad bods are either not fit themselves and too lazy to workout or they prefer a guy that doesn't make them feel insecure and looks big in comparison to them.
@HawkPerception yes, many women find dad bods attractive. Just because you aren’t able to understand it, doesn’t mean it’s not a thing. Dad bods tend to give off an aura of confidence and self assurance that six pack abs do not. People with six pack abs tend to give off vibes of being very self absorbed, insecure, and overly concerned with how others perceive them. As far as a long-term relationship? Women want the dad bod all day long. That doesn’t mean you should not care about your appearance and let yourself go.
@HawkPerception I didn’t come for an argument. I came to explain to you the reasoning behind finding dad bods attractive. People have differences in what they find attractive.
In reality, many guys that go to the gym are not doing it for health benefits. They are insecure guys with many psychological issues. Notorious for steroid abuse.
@Kingofkings1992 Yeah sure but in general there's always going to be an objective body type women find attractive. Women in genenal prefer men who are fit and in shape
It's a double edged sword when you're young being fit an athletic is great but what a lot of people won't tell you is it takes a toll on you it's actually hard on the body because when people recently came across people that said they were fitness buffs in the past but all the working out took its toll and now they are suffering joint pain and other ailments so I guess enjoy enjoy it while it lasts. Like Arnold Schwarzenegger you never see him shirtless anymore
Quit the "being fit is harsh on the body" and "fit people are insecure", I haven't used gyms in a long time and keep visible abs just eating clean. If you don't eat clean you'll shorten your life length wise and quality, and be feeling stressed and insecure due to hormonal imbalances. Likewise not training your body for long periods increases what's known as "stress hormones".
But at the end, getting horny is animalistic and trainable, you can brainwash people to want to fuck a fat guy if he's your drug dealer and you're a homeless addict. Like a pavlovs dog cock, pussies will eventually pussalivate at the sound of a fat fuck wheezing like the pavlov's bell. Let's see what the expert @V_Injector has to say...
@RetroReviews you're mainly only right if these people don't eat clean enough to regenerate.
Arnold Schwarzenegger got married to skeletor, became a politician. It's not logical. Especially since he's near 80 years old.
At least take for example any of Arnold's rivals that still keep trying, who aren't politicians. Jay Cutler was one of the biggest men on earth decades ago, and still is more muscular than 99.999999%. Although he's 50, not 76, decades after his bodybuilding career should've been enough time to break down, if the mysterious theory that exercise wears out the body was really true.
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Additionally, Arnold is from the era where bodybuilders lived off of mainly dianabol and nandrolone.
These 2 main compounds of 60s and 70s are the most "wet" in terms of gains, the only one that comes close is anadrol but that's a different mechanism and it's very very liver toxic.
No other steroids on the market create as many temporary gains, that leave when you stop dosing, as deca and dbol.
You could tell by his appearance that if he were to quit, he'll look like a normal gym guy within 2 months after the last dose.
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Now, you may look at 80 year olds who still take steroids.
Don't know even the name of this old dude.
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Paul chek is steroid free, has been exercising his entire life and here he is in his 60s from a recent book:
Exercise keeps you younger, unless you eat poorly.
@Quigly as @Lowly_Grump implied, steroids don't necessarily kill you any earlier than you'd die naturally.
I've said this before, while you're not wrong about some population, steroids clearly improve quality of life, even beyond TRT when you keep your T levels double of what is natural.
As long as you're managing the side effects smartly. Which 99.9% of steroid users do not because it requires knowledge, and enough discernment to reject scams and misinformation out there.
And yes, it is proven with hard science that steroid abuse shriпks the brаin no matter how good you eat.
Well, I happen to know that steroids hugеlу increase your body's орioid production. Орioids are also known to shrink the brain.
There aren't many people out there who deliberately take аnti-орioids alongside to prevent a large portion of the side effects.
This is one of many examples of what nobody in the internet talks about, at all. I have to do the research and critical thinking. This doesn't mean steroids are bad and anyone who uses them has mental issues. Because estrogens/progestins are also steroids, that'd imply all women on contraceptives are retarded... sort of.
Testosterone makes work fun, makes you capable of working more without getting tired.
I don't disagree that too many insecure retards abuse these drugs, it's embarrassing to have a common interest with them.
If all steroids changed was physical appearance, like wearing a muscle suit, I wouldn't touch them.
The problem of becoming dependent on external source of T is also really misunderstood by just about every steroid user, let alone normal people.
For the exercise naysayers out there... I have a question for them.
What is physical therapy? When you get injured and the doctor advises this, what is it? Is it just making it worse?
Why are squats prescribed when you have knee problems? Physical exercise is not the problem, and it's usually a lack thereof that is.
Now at the same time, I've noticed a shift in the blackpill community (thanks Stardust) and I get the anti-red pill argument of why bother with any self-improvement? The bottom line is that even though "doing the work" might not help a complete loser with the worst genetics... but it would help most of you. A dude that can't get laid no matter how hard he tries still stands to have better health.
So I say... never give up, and never surrender. I mean if you're going to spend time jerking off about getting pussy, might as well do some work and get some pussy.
Now those extreme examples of steroid using dudes that built muscle faster than their ligaments had time to adapt to... I'm just asking you to do some work, not inject shit and go full retard with it. Chicks don't even find that particularly attractive. Doing some basic work isn't going to make you Arnald or some shit like that.
Also if you buy wholesale powder then 3 dollars would be worth enough testosterone as TRT for an entire year. You see how huge of a profit it is to keep people misinformed on how to use it. Some pharmacies charge that much for a daily dose.
Although when you know a shit about it, a true HRT should replace progesterone, for men as well. Which is more potent per mg, you need no more than 1/10 of the amount of testosterone.
I can’t and won’t speak for other women, only myself. I used to be skinny, then at a later point in my life I weighed 250 pounds at 5’6” (I’m 220 now so I’ve made progress but I still have more to make in order to completely unfuck myself). I meet a lot of men who tell me “don’t get back into military shape. Fat is cute on women”, which is fine. It’s a preference, but I’m not going to stop working out because SOME men don’t want me to have the body type I want. I worked out A LOT when I was in the military and I miss it. I encourage men to have the same attitude. She doesn’t want to date a fit guy who doesn’t have a dad bod, fuck her and let her find a dad bod guy!
I prefer fit guys, but I’d still date a guy with a dad bod if I liked him. The only body type I wouldn’t date is Dr Now’s patients (from my 600lb life).
@PBandJ_Nerd it really is. I feel bad for those people really, but it is nice to hear their success stories.
Just to specify, I would not date someone who is 600lbs. I wish them the best but I can get easily dragged into their eating habits. However I would date someone who was once that size and lost the weight 😊
Well then bring on all the BBQ ribs, fast food & deep dish pizzas you got! 😆😆😆 I'm not into women cooking as a gender role; I feel men & women should both do the cooking... But if that's the bod she wants, boy, oh, boy do I have a cooking list for her. 😋 I've also noticed that when I stopped working out for some years, I gained some mass & my arms & chest looked fuller. Then when I started working out again, I'll be darned if the muscles didn't look rounder, bigger & overall more full/filled out-looking. I'd do the dad bod thing, knowing full-well that most relationships don't even last. After we break up, I'll work out & have full-looking, jack'd body for myself & quite possibly the next gal. 😉
First off, women say one thing today & change their mind tomorrow ALL THE TIME. Secondly, I always wanted to be more like the guys who built civilizations than the guys who just sit around drinking soy milk and playing with their soy milk leaking boobs. The guys who built civilization didn't care what women said.
They have no idea what a Dad bod is, just like they have no idea about anything. Womens interests and what they say depends on what society or their suroundings deem as acceptable. Most of them will say yes hoping its the acceptable social norm. But in their mind a Dad bod is usualy ripped with muscles, ask them what a dad bod is and you will see their gears turn, they have no clue. Just like a lot of them now have no father in the first place, as to why they have no idea.
I cannot imagine a woman telling a fit guy that she prefers a dad bod. That's so unrealistic. I also cannot imagine a guy trying to change himself to be less healthy for a girl. That is more of a girl thing, honestly (changing herself to meet the guy's preferences). Working out and staying active should be a lifestyle, not a superficial thing to get attention from the opposite sex. Just my opinion... :)
Bro do you even know what a dad bod is in the eyes of women? Its basically a muscular guy during a bulk/with some more fat on his rips. Not some skinny fat guy with arms like Spaghetti and a beer belly.
Why should it. Chiseled is a frame of mind and hard to live with. Best for those people to find like-minded gym focused partners. Same goes for couch potatoes.
Women usually prefer dad bods on people they are at least already attracted to lol. But my average looking body usually won't fall into any woman's physical attraction so I would definitely keep working out.
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Not at all , no girl is going to tell me what I need to look like , if she doesn’t like the way I look , so be it and good luck to you. Not every girl is going to like us and not every girl is not going to like us , Everyone has their own preferences of what they like and don’t like , so never change who you are to appease anyone. If you like working out and want to be shredded , work out and get shredded , if you like having a Dad bod have a Dad bod , just accept yourself for who you are , never let anyone tell you what they think you should be or what you should look like , those type of people can honestly Go Fuck Themselves , they are usually the biggest hypocrites on this planet , that act like their shit doesn’t stink , I can’t stand people that are that way. If you have nothing nice to say , than don’t say it at all , keep that shit to yourself. People that open their mouths in a rude disrespectful way , look like the biggest assholes on this planet. They don’t realize they are making themselves look like a complete idiot. Judgmental people are usually insecure about themselves, they project their own insecurities on to someone else, to make themselves feel better about themselves , not realizing they look like a complete moron to everyone else around them. I have witnessed so many guys’ that exercised on a daily basis and lived in the gym. getting turned down from girls’ because of their cocky stuck up attitude , thinking they are better than everyone. A wise girl will see right through that bullshit , a desperate insecure girl , will more than likely fall for it , a girl that needs validation constantly to feel accepted , my advice is stay away from girls’ like that , they can be nice to look at and have sex with , but they usually aren’t relationship material and usually they are not faithful, they jump ship the next opportunity they feel is best for themselves. They see no wrong In themselves whatsoever , My soon to be ex wife is a prime example of that type of girl , very selfish and only really cares about what is best for herself , I feel bad for any guy that falls for her shit , but I will gladly shake his hand and say Good luck with that shit lol
Yeah but generally speaking what women find attractive are men who are in shape. Women can say the find dad bods attractive all they want but objectively speaking, the men who are fit are going to be attractive to more women
Listen... women always say shit they don't really mean. It's like pulling teeth just to get them to admit that height matters. They don't walk what they talk. Pay attention to their actions and never listen to a woman's words ever again.
LOL, no, I like being skinny
I genuinely don't believe they do. It's not an attractive feature. I believe that athletes are what most people aspire to look like because an athletic body embodies fitness and health.
I think that women that say they like dad bods are either not fit themselves and too lazy to workout or they prefer a guy that doesn't make them feel insecure and looks big in comparison to them.
I will workout throughout my life.
Believe me man i know they don't find that bod attractive. There's what they say and then there's what they respond to
I know someone who does
@HawkPerception yes, many women find dad bods attractive. Just because you aren’t able to understand it, doesn’t mean it’s not a thing. Dad bods tend to give off an aura of confidence and self assurance that six pack abs do not. People with six pack abs tend to give off vibes of being very self absorbed, insecure, and overly concerned with how others perceive them. As far as a long-term relationship? Women want the dad bod all day long. That doesn’t mean you should not care about your appearance and let yourself go.
@Kingofkings1992 Not gonna argue this bud 😂
@HawkPerception I didn’t come for an argument. I came to explain to you the reasoning behind finding dad bods attractive. People have differences in what they find attractive.
In reality, many guys that go to the gym are not doing it for health benefits. They are insecure guys with many psychological issues. Notorious for steroid abuse.
@Kingofkings1992 Yeah sure but in general there's always going to be an objective body type women find attractive. Women in genenal prefer men who are fit and in shape
It's a double edged sword when you're young being fit an athletic is great but what a lot of people won't tell you is it takes a toll on you it's actually hard on the body because when people recently came across people that said they were fitness buffs in the past but all the working out took its toll and now they are suffering joint pain and other ailments so I guess enjoy enjoy it while it lasts. Like Arnold Schwarzenegger you never see him shirtless anymore
Quit the "being fit is harsh on the body" and "fit people are insecure", I haven't used gyms in a long time and keep visible abs just eating clean. If you don't eat clean you'll shorten your life length wise and quality, and be feeling stressed and insecure due to hormonal imbalances. Likewise not training your body for long periods increases what's known as "stress hormones".
But at the end, getting horny is animalistic and trainable, you can brainwash people to want to fuck a fat guy if he's your drug dealer and you're a homeless addict. Like a pavlovs dog cock, pussies will eventually pussalivate at the sound of a fat fuck wheezing like the pavlov's bell. Let's see what the expert @V_Injector has to say...
@Cogk_Of_Atlantis is right.
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@RetroReviews you're mainly only right if these people don't eat clean enough to regenerate.
Arnold Schwarzenegger got married to skeletor, became a politician. It's not logical. Especially since he's near 80 years old.
At least take for example any of Arnold's rivals that still keep trying, who aren't politicians. Jay Cutler was one of the biggest men on earth decades ago, and still is more muscular than 99.999999%. Although he's 50, not 76, decades after his bodybuilding career should've been enough time to break down, if the mysterious theory that exercise wears out the body was really true.
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Additionally, Arnold is from the era where bodybuilders lived off of mainly dianabol and nandrolone.
These 2 main compounds of 60s and 70s are the most "wet" in terms of gains, the only one that comes close is anadrol but that's a different mechanism and it's very very liver toxic.
No other steroids on the market create as many temporary gains, that leave when you stop dosing, as deca and dbol.
You could tell by his appearance that if he were to quit, he'll look like a normal gym guy within 2 months after the last dose.
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Now, you may look at 80 year olds who still take steroids.
Don't know even the name of this old dude.
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Paul chek is steroid free, has been exercising his entire life and here he is in his 60s from a recent book:
Exercise keeps you younger, unless you eat poorly.
@Quigly as @Lowly_Grump implied, steroids don't necessarily kill you any earlier than you'd die naturally.
I've said this before, while you're not wrong about some population, steroids clearly improve quality of life, even beyond TRT when you keep your T levels double of what is natural.
As long as you're managing the side effects smartly. Which 99.9% of steroid users do not because it requires knowledge, and enough discernment to reject scams and misinformation out there.
And yes, it is proven with hard science that steroid abuse shriпks the brаin no matter how good you eat.
Well, I happen to know that steroids hugеlу increase your body's орioid production. Орioids are also known to shrink the brain.
There aren't many people out there who deliberately take аnti-орioids alongside to prevent a large portion of the side effects.
This is one of many examples of what nobody in the internet talks about, at all. I have to do the research and critical thinking. This doesn't mean steroids are bad and anyone who uses them has mental issues. Because estrogens/progestins are also steroids, that'd imply all women on contraceptives are retarded... sort of.
Testosterone makes work fun, makes you capable of working more without getting tired.
I don't disagree that too many insecure retards abuse these drugs, it's embarrassing to have a common interest with them.
If all steroids changed was physical appearance, like wearing a muscle suit, I wouldn't touch them.
The problem of becoming dependent on external source of T is also really misunderstood by just about every steroid user, let alone normal people.
@Cogk_Of_Atlantis Correctomondo.
For the exercise naysayers out there... I have a question for them.
What is physical therapy? When you get injured and the doctor advises this, what is it? Is it just making it worse?
Why are squats prescribed when you have knee problems? Physical exercise is not the problem, and it's usually a lack thereof that is.
Now at the same time, I've noticed a shift in the blackpill community (thanks Stardust) and I get the anti-red pill argument of why bother with any self-improvement? The bottom line is that even though "doing the work" might not help a complete loser with the worst genetics... but it would help most of you. A dude that can't get laid no matter how hard he tries still stands to have better health.
So I say... never give up, and never surrender. I mean if you're going to spend time jerking off about getting pussy, might as well do some work and get some pussy.
Now those extreme examples of steroid using dudes that built muscle faster than their ligaments had time to adapt to... I'm just asking you to do some work, not inject shit and go full retard with it. Chicks don't even find that particularly attractive. Doing some basic work isn't going to make you Arnald or some shit like that.
Also if you buy wholesale powder then 3 dollars would be worth enough testosterone as TRT for an entire year. You see how huge of a profit it is to keep people misinformed on how to use it. Some pharmacies charge that much for a daily dose.
Although when you know a shit about it, a true HRT should replace progesterone, for men as well. Which is more potent per mg, you need no more than 1/10 of the amount of testosterone.
I can’t and won’t speak for other women, only myself. I used to be skinny, then at a later point in my life I weighed 250 pounds at 5’6” (I’m 220 now so I’ve made progress but I still have more to make in order to completely unfuck myself). I meet a lot of men who tell me “don’t get back into military shape. Fat is cute on women”, which is fine. It’s a preference, but I’m not going to stop working out because SOME men don’t want me to have the body type I want. I worked out A LOT when I was in the military and I miss it. I encourage men to have the same attitude. She doesn’t want to date a fit guy who doesn’t have a dad bod, fuck her and let her find a dad bod guy!
I prefer fit guys, but I’d still date a guy with a dad bod if I liked him. The only body type I wouldn’t date is Dr Now’s patients (from my 600lb life).
"I can't speak for other women". Sure you can. You can go based on what women generally find attractive. There's always an objective type
My 600lb Life is so hard to watch sometimes.
@PBandJ_Nerd it really is. I feel bad for those people really, but it is nice to hear their success stories.
Just to specify, I would not date someone who is 600lbs. I wish them the best but I can get easily dragged into their eating habits. However I would date someone who was once that size and lost the weight 😊
Well then bring on all the BBQ ribs, fast food & deep dish pizzas you got! 😆😆😆 I'm not into women cooking as a gender role; I feel men & women should both do the cooking... But if that's the bod she wants, boy, oh, boy do I have a cooking list for her. 😋 I've also noticed that when I stopped working out for some years, I gained some mass & my arms & chest looked fuller. Then when I started working out again, I'll be darned if the muscles didn't look rounder, bigger & overall more full/filled out-looking. I'd do the dad bod thing, knowing full-well that most relationships don't even last. After we break up, I'll work out & have full-looking, jack'd body for myself & quite possibly the next gal. 😉
First off, women say one thing today & change their mind tomorrow ALL THE TIME. Secondly, I always wanted to be more like the guys who built civilizations than the guys who just sit around drinking soy milk and playing with their soy milk leaking boobs. The guys who built civilization didn't care what women said.
They have no idea what a Dad bod is, just like they have no idea about anything. Womens interests and what they say depends on what society or their suroundings deem as acceptable. Most of them will say yes hoping its the acceptable social norm. But in their mind a Dad bod is usualy ripped with muscles, ask them what a dad bod is and you will see their gears turn, they have no clue. Just like a lot of them now have no father in the first place, as to why they have no idea.
I cannot imagine a woman telling a fit guy that she prefers a dad bod. That's so unrealistic. I also cannot imagine a guy trying to change himself to be less healthy for a girl. That is more of a girl thing, honestly (changing herself to meet the guy's preferences). Working out and staying active should be a lifestyle, not a superficial thing to get attention from the opposite sex. Just my opinion... :)
I can't speak for other women.
My preference in men is that they look like they take care of themselves physically.
I'm not into seeing a guy look like he lives in a gym, but, I hate seeing ones with big guts... or generally being flabby.
I run and workout so I look good... I sort of expect the same from guys in my life.
Bro do you even know what a dad bod is in the eyes of women? Its basically a muscular guy during a bulk/with some more fat on his rips. Not some skinny fat guy with arms like Spaghetti and a beer belly.
It's exactly the ladder
Nope just type in dad bod in google
And read the definition
Women dont what a dad bod is. They think it's a man who's semi fit with a little fat. That's not it at all
Why should it.
Chiseled is a frame of mind and hard to live with. Best for those people to find like-minded gym focused partners. Same goes for couch potatoes.
I always struggled with my weight and would never give up my fight for a healthy lifestyle just because a woman says she enjoys belly cushion.
I was in fact put in that situation once already. Didn't change myself just to accommodate her
Women usually prefer dad bods on people they are at least already attracted to lol. But my average looking body usually won't fall into any woman's physical attraction so I would definitely keep working out.
People should workout for their health first and foremost, not the opinions of others.
Yeah but naturally it's going to change how you're perceived by other people
Most attractive, fit girls who take care of their bodies like men who also take care of their own bodies
People in general
How tf are you going to put that guy next to a dad bod? I'll bet you this, if we have history with the dad bod, we'll turn that guy down.
Not all of us, anyways.
Put who? What are you talking about?
Gaslighting? Are you challenging me? The image you put. You must be young, still playing games.
Do you play in your room still, or on a professional level working 9-5 from a computer science degree on bugs?
I didn't put that image. The site did because my question got recommended 😂
Cough>BS>cough>Bs They don't put those images
I guess if we asked the same question reveresed, they would show what?
The site does indeed add its own images when a question is recommended. Settle down
Someone else's preference shouldn't affect how you want to be.
I go on what generally works
They don't, though. Like, only a very select few. Most people prefer fit bodies.
Oh believe me i know. There's what women say and then there's what women respond to
Women prefer men that are fit.
Aka not fat, but not super buff either.
I myself have noticed this first hand as well as asking women’s taste. And overwhelmingly women have that preference
Hmmmmmm...
Girls only like guys with dad bods cuz they don’t have to worry about other girls liking them 🤣
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